Posts tagged ‘Kielce Gubernia’

October 5, 2018

Genetic Genealogy & Polish Family Tree

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

Stanczyk, like most family historians is proud of his heritage and research. Today’s pics are just a small part.

Martha – via Siwiec, Wojtys, Lewinski, Eliasz

Jon/Jan – via Marzic, Zasucha, Eliasz

The two pics represents two wings of this jester’s family tree.

This jester does not employ genetic testing for a variety of business/legal reasons.

However, now twice genetic genealogists have used my tree to solve their genetic mysteries.

Now this jester has maintained that the people (osob) of Biechow, Pacanow, Zborowek, Szczebrzusz, Olesnica, Stopnica, Beszowa, Swiniary, Solec(-Zdroj), and Dobrowoda parishes (parafia) including their surrounding villages are inter-related.

So I have been only too happy to work with other genealogists. Genealogy is easily the best suited field of study for crowd-source solutions and collaborating on family tree & histories. My feeling is that I am helping others who are connected to me and through our mutual research we will discover those connections. Indeed that is the raison d’etre of this blog. Its meant to be a cousin magnet. I have benefited as much as the other genealogists. Sometimes I get pictures of distant cousins, sometimes pictures of myself or my father or grandmother that I did not know existed (and obviously did not have). Often I get get new avenues of research in branches that were long lost.

Back to the pictures. John Marzic (right pic) is a person from an affiliated family of an affiliated family (Zasucha). I worked with a genetic genealogist, Kathy G. and we found her cousin’s cousin who was adopted as child and we found his birth family. John Marzic turned out to be the missing father and through extensive testing of many people not shown, the genetics provided the info to connected John Marzic to myself. I did not even know John’s son’s name, just that he grew up Michigan and was connected to Pacanow (my grandfather’s birth village) and might be related to a Zasucha. Remember a blog “Searchin’ For Zasucha”? It and a few other Zasucha blogs drew Kathy’s attention. We worked together, me using geneteka and genbaza and aiding on the USA side in odd bits here and there. Kathy did the suspected families (from Pacanow to Niagara Falls(NY) to Albion(MI) to Nevada). She did the genetic testing of the probable branches and we succeeded. I did NOT know her “cousin’s cousin, the adoptee”!

The left picture shows a FB genealogist who worked with me to connect our trees! Martha had so many wide branches I had no idea of. Through her I even found Eliasz that I did not know of connected to her ancestors (through marriage). We did connect our trees. I like to add the branches leading to the genealogists connected to me. So I was surprised when Martha messaged me recently about a SF person who was highly connected to her genetically (long cm strands and many strands). Martha started describing to me and I knew at once she was connected to my Marzic/Zasucha branch (so yet another path to Martha and me). They are at far branches and yet they are connected via genetics. But it was my branches (and I suppose my untested genetics too) that connected them. Through her MRCA numbers from her to him & vice versa (slightly different 3.4 generations & 3.6 generations), I was able to count up my tree from her and from him and tell her the most likely branches she needed to pursue. In her case it was her Lewinski branches & Wojtys branches (oddly enough not the Eliasz nor the Zasucha).  Counting back from John Marzic (or really his son) I ended up at Lewinski & Wojtys the same as for her. The Eliasz & Zasucha are merely stepping stones between these two families. Kathy G, if you are still reading my blog, then look at Martha (left pic with arrow). Her DNA is up on some genealogy website(s). Your cousin’s cousin has another set of family branches to add to his tree.

By the way, Martha & Kathy, I have a friend, Louis Kessler who is a genealogist, blogger, & a programmer who does genetic genealogy. He has some excellent dna triangulation software  on his website.

June 28, 2018

INVENTORY: Polish Kingdom / Russian Poland partition (Kielce Gubernia) — #Genealogy #Polish

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

Stanczyk felt it was time again to survey the gubernia, Kielce Gubernia (Kieleckie). This jester was surprised at the number of new scans made available since the last survey/inventory.

To use these sources, you need to have a user-id/password and be logged in…except the SzukajWArchiwach requires no authentication to use. These are the Kielce Gubernia records that ARE ONLINE! There may be other records available in the parish, the USC, the National Archive of Poland or in the Church Archive (Diocessan).

 

First, let me make a list of my Internet sources (please email any more that you know):

2-July-2018 06-October-2018 (as of) [additions from SzukajWarchiwach]

Additions

A total of 14,370 more scanned images (approx. 60,000-140,000 new records in Kielce gubernia).

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Bialaczowie#tabZasoby Bialaczowie

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Bialobrzegach#tabZasoby Bialobrzegach

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Bebelnie#tabZasoby Bebelnie

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Bedlnie#tabZasoby Bedlnie

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Bejscach#tabZasoby Bejscach

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21?filtr=Biechow#tabZasoby Biechow

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?sort=syg_order&filtr=Bielinach#tabZasoby Bielinach

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Skrzynnie#tabZasoby Skrzynnie

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Skrzynsku#tabZasoby Skrzynsku

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/21/str/1/50?filtr=Smogorzowie#tabZasoby Smogorzowie

 

 

  1. AP-Kielce
  2. AD-Kielce
  3. AP-Sandomierz
  4. FamilySearch-Czestochowa-Kielce
  5. FamilySearch-Evangelical-Kielce
  6. FamilySearch-Evangelical-Radom
  7. FamilySearch-Lublin-Kielce
  8. FamilySearch-Radom-Kielce
  9. SzukajWArchiwum-Kielce (pages 7, 18, 19, 20)
  10. SzukajWArchiwum-Sandomierz (no pages had scans)
  11. Geneteka-Metryki-SwietoKrzyskie

 

 

 

 

Sources <Notes> Counts By Source
AD-Kielce 128
AP-Kielce  10 jewish congregations 180
AP-Sandomierz  16 jewish congregations 121
Czestochowa 8
Evangelical-Kielce Marriages 1914 0
Evangelical-Radom Births 1866-1872 0
FamilySearch-Lublin-Kielce 1
FamilySearch-Radom-Kielce 287
SzukajWArchiwum-Kielce 35 pages (100 lines/pages) 18 28
SzukajWArchiwum-Sandomierz 13 pages (100 lines/page) 0
Geneteka-Metryki-SwietoKrzyskie 14 powiaty 72

 

The next table is 815 rows [2-July-2018 (as of)]

 

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March 17, 2018

Genealogy in Poland Between The Wars – Conscripts (Poborowi) – #Genealogy #Polish

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

Poborowi

Kielecki Dziennik Wojewodzki – 1933 July 25th

Well earlier (a few blogs ago, 20-February-2018)), Stanczyk, dropped his favorite meme, “Things I Found…“.  In actuality, this jester was searching for military conscript lists. I had one and needed help interpreting the data. That bit of seeking help resulted in my finding a news account of my great-great-grandfather Marcin Elijasz in an historical Polish newspaper from 1879.

I found two conscript lists (poborowi) in digitized historical newspapers from the 1930’s (Poland between the Wars era). I am struggling with what to do as the amount of data is in 2,000[1933 list], 7,328[1932 list] (9,328 total) names from both articles. After analyzing the data, what I found was:


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September 20, 2017

Meme: #Wordless #Wednesday — Polish Genealogy

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

The above image is from an Alegata in support of an 1878 marriage where the bride was from out parish (Biechów parish / parafia, Kielce Gubernia, Russian-Poland; the bride was originally born in Dębica parish, Austrian Empire, Galicia Kingdom, Pilzno District, Tarnów diocese.

Baby: Marianna Czajka daughter of Joseph Czajka & Catharina Golec

Joseph Czajka son of Apolonia Czajka (Illeg. )

Catharina Golec dau. of Sebastian Golec & Sophia Bielacik

Born: 28-February-1854

Extracted: 5-January-1878 for alegata in support of 1878 Biechów Marriage Akt. 1

July 18, 2014

Family Search – An Inventory of Kielce Gubernia/Wojewodztwo

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

Stanczyk,  frequently has written about the online inventories where the Kielce Gubernia/Wojewodztwo parish records, scanned images or indexes  exist. I have written about Geneteka, GenBaza, etc. But did you know that Family Search also has some?

Buried within:

You can find the list of parishes at:  Family Search (Kielce) 

At present we find parishes have some online scans:

 


 

April 24, 2014

1890 Kielce Gubernia Commemorative Book — #Genealogy, #Polish

by C. Michael Eliasz-Solomon

1867-1915 - Gubernia_Kielce,  Stopnica PowiatOn Easter Sunday, Stanczyk wrote about Logan Kleinwak / Genealogy Indexer. In the article, I used as an example of the database searches (sources) that genealogy indexer searches through as the: 1890 Kielce Gubernia Commemorative Book (Памятная книжка Келецкой губернии). That was a bit foreshadowing of today’s blog.   This blog is dominated by Genealogy, by Polish Genealogy, by Russian-Poland partition Genealogy, in particular the Kielce Gubernia (Wojewodztwo). Most of the time I write about topics that centers upon post-Napoleonic era (1815-ish to about 1918) which overlaps the era of the three partitions and the era of the Great Migration to the USA. One of the reasons for such a focus to connect with distant cousins on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean. So today’s topic is to further understand the administrative structures of my ancestral villages in 1890 Kielce Gubernia. Where the red square is on today’s map-graphic is the geographic area we are speaking of. It is important to understand the administrative structures to trace your genealogy. So today we will be examining the hierarchy described by their Russian names as: Gubernia composed of Uyezds or Powiats which were composed of Gminas  (aka Wojewodztwo->Powiats->Gminas). There is also a religious hierarchy: Diocese-Deaconate-Parish. These hierarchies change over time as borders are drawn and redrawn. So Stanczyk pulled images of some these administrative structures and other data to put this research in a context of 1890 (roku) from the above title book which is written in Russian/Cyrillic. I am hopeful that seeing the Cyrillic from the book along with the English translation will aid other genealogists in their searches and research. There are a number of images and descriptions so this will be a long read if you are “up for it”.

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