Richard III finally is buried 22-MARCH-2015 in a marked grave.
Update your family trees Anglo Genealogists.
… A Muse — ing
RAOGK (Random Acts Of Genealogical Kindness) is back. Their website raogk.org is trying to rebuild the database of volunteers. The RAOGK pages on Facebook appear to be unconnected but were created to fill the void when RAOGK.org disappeared a few years ago.
Welcome back back RAOGK! If any of you are Polonia in the USA or are from Poland, then email me and I’ll note it here in the blog. In my day, I too was a RAOGK volunteer.
Now you can provide raogk via Facebook groups (and yes even through the old Yahoo Groups that pre-dated Facebook), volunteer to do indexing through a local society or through FamilySearch.org, (or other Indexing projects, like Ancestry’s World Archives Project). I have been a part of many of those too as well hanging out in Rootsweb/Ancestry forums.
Genealogy is collaborative. If you can go back 30+ generations (less if you are Polish like this blogger), then you are related to me and you are helping family. At least that is how I think about it. Also many have paid me this kindness, how can I not pay it forward too?
Collaborate … Volunteer its good for you and for all.
— So today’s blog article is what I wish for us genealogists.
Does anybody else have any good suggestions for wishes? Email me or Comment on this blog article.
Stanczyk enjoys PBS and Genealogy. PBS has the excellent series Antique Roadshow so why not a Genealogy Roadshow? This is another fine genealogical series that complements the excellent work by Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr (Finding Your Roots).
Well the PBS crew, featuring genealogists Kenyatta D. Berry, Joshua Taylor and Mary Tedesco are coming to Philadelphia, October 25th and 26th to film. This will be broadcast during the winter season coming up.
You can attend this event too. The details are on the Genealogy Roadshow website .
For those unfamiliar with Philadelphia genealogy, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania (HSP). will be featured. Many of the founding families have their genealogies recorded in book-form in a lovely room chock full of leather bound books of family histories.
Stanczyk — has a great-grandmother, Aniela Major / Majer who was the daughter or Marcin Major and Katazyna Ozarowicz. I have found some Major in church records. But, as yet I have been unable to locate Ozarowicz records that connect to my family tree.
At the top is an image, of the OZAROWICZ (aka Uzarowicz) name as written in Russian/Cyrillic. My Ozarowicz were from Biechow parish (of Stopnica area in the old wojewodztwo Kielce). So today, I am announcing in this blog that I am searching for Ozarowicz from Biechow area.
Click on my Stanczyk image and drop me an electronic missive if you are one or know one. Thanks!
About two years ago Stanczyk wrote about a website, special because it was a Polish-German joint effort at Reconciliation. The website I am referring to is: http://www.straty.pl/index.php/szukaj-w-bazie — Which takes you to a database search page where you can search for, “Victims of Oppression“. It for searching for victims of World War II inside Poland. Originally, I kind of ignored it because I did not have family who was sent to a Concentration Camp nor did any of mine get forced relation after the war. So I MISTAKENLY thought this database was not for me. Last week I learned a few things.
Today’s blog is about the Mash-up of Geneteka database, Using Straty.pl (the above database of oppression) and a website of Concentration Camps, with a smidgeon of Genbaza.pl thrown in for good measure.
I went to straty.pl (use above link, for Polish) or paste the above link into Google’s Translator (for English). I put ‘Elijasz’ into the field named “Nazwisko” (Surname) and clicked on the button “Szukaj” (Search). It returned four results for me:
Notice the third row, with Stanislaw Elijasz, whose “Miejsce urodzenie” (birth place) was Pacanów. When I clicked on the button with the number “3”. Remember his birthdate: 1906-04-17 ; We will use this data in Geneteka to get the Akt # and in GenBaza.pl to get the image of the birth record. When I clicked on the number “3” button, I got a lot more info:
I immediately, understood my mistake. The oppression database returned data about my ancestor, Stanislaw Elijasz who was a soldier in the Polish Army when World War II started (1-SEP-1939). He is listed as a victim of the September 1939 Campaign, he was caught, in “Russland” [I presume they mean in the Russian Occupied territory as opposed to the German Occupied Poland.], he was the equivalent of a Lance Corporal in a Signal Corps Battalion. At any rate, he was interred in POW Camp (the 1st of three) on September 17, 1939. Imagine that, he spent the entire World War II as a prisoner of war.
The other details were vague and not clear to me from the data. Lucky for me in Facebook, I have a friend, named Jozef Taran (in Poland). He provided me a website for concentration camps:
This second mash-up link was website of German Stalags (Concentration Camps) in Poland, Ukraine and Western Russia. This website and wikipedia pages gave me the details to understand the data returned by straty.pl for Stanislaw. You World War II military buffs take note !
Ok, but now I wanted to find which Stanislaw Elijasz of Pacanow, born on or about 17-APRIL-1906 was this data about. So I went to:
Geneteka.pl — to see if Stanislaw was indexed and what his birth record number (Akt #) might be to help me in my search of GenBaza.pl and to confirm the birth date. I found on result number 46, a result for Stanislaw born in 1906 Pacanow with an Akt # 77. Now I had enough info to locate his birth record in:
GeneBaza.pl — That link takes you directly to Stanislaw Elijasz, born in Pacanow on 17-April_1906, Akt #77 [assuming you have a GenBaza login id and you are logged in]. This gives the the church birth record image:
Now we have a complete picture of our Polish ancestor by the mash-up of websites:
The presenters were a strong group: D. Joshua Taylor, Ceil Wendt Jensen, Greg Nelson, Sonia Hoeke-Nishimoto, Mark Olsen, and Tadeusz Pilat. The first two have been on TV genealogy shows and are therefore well known. Ceil has been a part of so many Polish Genealogical media/conferences/organizations that her credibility as a UPGS presenter is top-notch. Sonia and Greg are both members of FamilySearch.org and you can often find Sonia in FHL, plus she does Polish genealogy research for her own family tree. Greg Nelson is also the replacement Kahlile Mehr at FamilySearch and so his presence was welcome (as Kahlile’s presence was missed). Mark Olson was from MyHeritage and Tadeusz Pilat a presenter from Warsaw Poland and a ProGenealogists.com professional.
The conference had 11 presentations over 4 days, leaving some time for research and to attend optional FHL classes. The evenings had special events, including a banquet and a Wesoły Lud Folk Dance Ensemble performance for attendees. There appeared to be about 70+ attendees but there was just a single tract (unfortunately no choice in presentations, but they were all in one place — no getting lost). The presentations were split between Genealogy and Technology as the 2014 Conference proceedings cover shows. The Conference proceedings was good quality and included the presentation abstracts plus extra material and sponsor materials. This was well thought out and organized, and the Schedule thoughtfully included the hours for when FHL was open. My only suggestion for the Proceedings was to mention the Conference Room for the Presentations, which in this case was the same room for all presentations. It was not a problem as the organizers were present to hand-out materials and answer questions and once you knew the conference room it was the same for all presentations — so only a small error of omission.
Josh Taylor did 3 presentations. Two were on Technology. The problem with Technology presentations is that you need to know your audience and deliver to their level but in UPGS people have computer/technology experience of varying levels. This jester has had an entire career in Technology and I know at least two others present also made their careers with computers/technology and one man from Texas had technology focus and his own website that he maintained and developed. Today it is hard to find a genealogist that has not embraced technology. None-the-less the crowd ranged from rank beginners to very advanced and Josh targeted the very beginners. This was a bad decision by UPGS organizers because there was only one tract, I had nowhere else to go, except to the FHL.
If you had multiple tracts and the attendee could choose another presentation then it would be ok. In fairness, the technology presentations should also be evenly split across: beginner, medium and advanced experience attendees. But all of Josh’s presentations were at the lowest level and the material even then was not very substantive. After his presentation, I asked the UPGS/UPGSA director why don’t you have the presenters put their PowerPoints online so we do not have to write down links (URLs) or so that we can cut/paste forms into usable documents. Astonishingly, he said, “Because these are the presenter’s property. Their work-in-trade.” I did not have the heart to tell him that too many of the presentations were worthless if these were examples of that person’s professional body of work. I did not want to argue that most large conferences do EXACTLY as I requested/suggested we at UPGS do. Almost every presenter said if you email me, I will send you my presentation. If that is so then why not upload the presentation online at the UPGS or UPGSA website?
This attitude on this UPGSA organizer’s part of rebuffing suggestions is precisely why UPGS is only 70+ people and one tract of presentations and some of those presentations were sub-par. In truth the conference has not changed since I last attended in 2008. No growth and the quality of the banquet was less and it seemed less Genealogical Society support than in 2008 and before.
“Advancing Your Polish Research“, by Sonia Hoeke-Nishimoto
“Maps & Gazetteers for Genealogy“, by Sonia Hoeke-Nishimoto
“Immigration Agents“, by Ceil Jensen
“The Peasant & the Palace: Research Manor Records“, by Ceil Jensen
“This is Women’s Work — Midwifery”, by Ceil Jensen
“Creating Your Personal Family History Website“, by Josh Taylor
“New Tools & Ideas in Research“, by Josh Taylor
“Keynote: Family History in Pop Culture“, by Josh Taylor
“MyHeritage.com”, by Mark Olsen
“Notary Records In Poland”, by Tadeusz Pilat
“Searching the 3 Partitions at FHL; LDS Filming Projects in Poland”, by Greg Nelson
Can you see the flaws? Too few presentations. There needs to be at least two tracts so people have some choice. Further more, attendees should rate the presentations 1 … 11 (the # of presentations) so that organizers can see what the attendees like (or do NOT like). Also, 8 of the 11 presentations were by just three people. Nowhere near enough presenters. We need more diversity. You cannot tell me this was done to keep quality high, because as I said some of the 11 presentations were sub-par. No quality in limited presenters. Indeed, it causes presenters to “recycle” their efforts and the short durations 75 minutes probably meant that they cut some material from these recycled presentations leaving the attendee with an “unsatisfied” feeling from these content-lite (or content-free) send-ups. Perhaps if we had two tracts we could go to 90 minute presentations. These presentations could not be put up on the Internet??? Please organizers, you need to attend some more conferences and see how things are done BETTER and get some fresh ideas and perhaps decentralize the control of what is done/presented.
Don’t get this jester wrong. Ceil Jensen hit another three home runs. Sonia’s work was informative and appealing high quality. Josh Taylor did a very good job with the banquet Keynote presentation. Tadeusz’s presentation was one I was looking forward to — to find new avenues of research in Poland beyond church records. It was well done and his English was good enough to present a high-quality send-up. I liked Greg Nelson’s sharing of what was happening in FamilySearch for Polish Genealogists. Mark Olsen won me over about MyHeritage.com. You knew it was going to be a bit commercial, but he was convincing of the special technology that they have in their matching. He even made the commercial part disappear by offering EVERY attendee a free trial ! When this jester, needled Mark with a question about how many Polish genealogists MyHeritage had, he gleefully answered by showing us,within the tool itself, a map of how many accounts by country and the country Poland was over 1 Million members (on par with Germany)! Obviously some genealogists in the USA would need to be added on top but an accurate demographic of US genealogists by ethnicity, does not exist . I like the idea of the UPGS including a presenter from Europe at each UPGS. Obviously, a Polish researcher would be preferred but one with Eastern/Central European expertise would also be welcome. This “cross-Atlantic”, cross pollination of information exchange is a valuable goal. It seems we have done many times already. So kudos, for keeping this idea going and for the selection of Tadeusz Pilat,
So it was really just the Technology presentations that I felt were not valuable and the organizer’s entrenchment over simple suggestions that they could make for free and improve this conference. This only happens every other year, so you would think incorporating change and improvements would be easy and also be welcomed, given that much time to put on the next UPGS. Here is one more suggestion for the UPGS organizers. Perhaps the UPGSA needs to appoint a person whose sole focus is putting on the UPGS conference and training this person on how it is done now, what the costs drivers are and what the revenues are and asking the UPGSA members to provide suggestions for what they want to see in a new conference. Also I think the other regional Polish Genealogy Societies also need input into what would improve UPGS. I personally would welcome paying $25-$30 more (i.e. raise conference fee) for registration to get a 2nd tract of presenters. In my over 15 years of genealogy, I have NEVER once seen a call for papers or presentations. I have seen them for ROOTS Tech conference and I have seen them for the IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy. I have even seen the call for papers from FEEFHS.
I think the USPGSA and all regional Polish genealogy societies need to email ALL of their members and request papers/abstracts for presentations for each and every conference. I am a member of several societies and never seen it except for the conferences I have attended: ROOTS Tech & IAJGS Conference. It seems like the presentations are all done by people well connected to conference organizers. More diversity / more opportunity. OH UPGS organizers get some more presentations specific to Polish Genealogy. I was really disappointed by the presenters who said they have no Polish Genealogy experience … REALY at UPGS ??? What are you thinking? I did enjoy meeting old friends and long time Polish Genealogists again and doing some catch-up, perhaps we need some way of doing that.
This conference fails to teach new Polish Genealogists on Polish Genealogy topics. I think that limits the UPGS from growing. We also need to make it so genealogy vendors come and sell at the conference and they help defray the costs by charging for vendor tables. The UPGSA should produce an online PDF document, “How To Present At The UPGS Conference” so that other people know how to submit proposals, what they will face when they get to Salt Lake City and how to hook up their laptops to the projector. Make it a comfortable and welcome process for new presenters and for people to provide suggestions.
Each Polish Genealogical Society needs to sponsor one presenter at the UPGS (if their paper is chosen). That way we can see material from all over the USA from recognized genealogists and the costs of presenters is born by each society to share the expense of putting on UPGS while sharing control/input amongst them all. I missed seeing Matthew Bielawa, Jonathan Shea, Lisa Alzo. How long has it been since NY or Toledo had a presenter at UPGS? Perhaps other Polish Fraternal Groups could also help support this conference via ads or sponsorship of national speakers. Finally, show us Polish Genealogy bloggers some love: Give us quality pics of the speakers to use in blogs and access to any/all speakers for quick interviews. Why not make an UPGS organizer available for question & answer interviews to bloggers? Why not list bloggers and Polish genealogy websites in the Conference Proceedings?
Let’s grow this thing! Oh by the way, this jester’s suggestions are in BOLD-RED UPGSA, just in case you want some feedback.
If you agree or disagree let this jester know. Just email me.
♥ Happy Mother’s Day 2014 ♥ – First, Stanczyk wishes to thank my wife on Mother’s Day and then to wish all mothers a day of joy.
I love my wife, Teréza, and one of my goals for my recent research trip was to find her paternal grandparent’s ancestral villages. I have some clues from American records, but Jewish records are hard to locate. But I was able to locate a census of the Austrian Hungarian Empire for the Maramaros region and the village of Kovesliget in particular which is very near to the present day border of Ukraine (by Khust) and inside Romania. The only record I found for that locale was from 1828 census, so I cannot prove that Misek Volfe (Jewish) is a direct line ancestor of her paternal grandmother, Bessie Wolf. But it does confirm for me that I have the correct locale from the US records.
For my own mother, Rosemary, I was able to locate her Vespeks in Sarvas (Osijek-Baranja county of modern day, Eastern Croatia). This corresponds to the LDS microfilm: FHL INTL Film # 1739003 Items 1-3. I first had an inkling from my maternal grandfather, Jozef Vespek’s naturalization papers. I also had seen some records that FamilySearch had posted on-line and so I had more than an inkling that I would find Vespeks in the LDS microfilm. I also found Reiter, which had been in the ship manifest for my mom’s half brothers (Jozef & Vendelin when they came from their uncle Rajter).
Genealogy is all about your family … those people in your tree and Mother’s Day is another fine day to honor those named therein, particularly the mothers.
Stanczyk has been busy with his research in metryki.genbaza.pl . One of my surprising finds was that my grandmother’s eldest [half]-brother Jan lived in Rochester ( in Monroe County, NY ). I recently found Jan Leszczynski in the AP Kielce archive data on GenBaza – his marriage and a few children (with Antonina Sieradzka). Jan came from his son Feliks in Falecin, Stopnica parish, Kielce Gubernia, Poland and went to his son Jan P. Leszczynski in Rochester, NY. Also, Jan (the elder) had another son, Wladyslaw who also came to Rochester, NY.
So I am looking for genealogists tracing or related to this family of Leszczynski in Rochester, NY. Here are a few addresses:
302 Weaver Rd.
304 Weaver Rd.
13 Ernst Rd.
357 Wilkins Street
All are in Rochester, NY. All had Leszczynski related to me living at the above addresses. If you are related to them, then we are related. Please contact me (click on Stanczyk pic to email me) and we can trade info/pictures. It also appears that Jan (the elder) also had a brother Frank Leszczynski that lived briefly in Rochester. This Frank Leszczynski also lived in: Depew, Buffalo, Tonawanda too [All in Erie County, NY]. Both Jan and Frank are sons of my great-grandfather Tomasz Leszczynski.
I have attached a local map below of Rochester, Monroe County, New York of a small section of town known as the Polish Section which had two Catholic churches very near to my Leszczynski families. It is possible and likely that my ancestors would have been parishioners at one of these churches.
There was a Catholic church, St. Stanislaus on St. Stanislaus Street and a Polish National Catholic Church at 40 Ernst Street. Both of these would have been very near to the Leszczynski families I am searching for.
75 kopeks. The cost of that stamp on an alegata. In case, you cannot read Cyrillic or do not recognize it on the cancellation mark of the stamp — it says:
11/24 January 1907
This stamp appeared on an alegata document, describing my paternal grandparents, Jozef Elijasz & Waleryja Leszczynska. You can see from the civil and church records of theirs, that this is their marriage date.
So now I have three Polish authoritative sources for their marriage (date/place).
I found this alegata a bit fascinating. First it had the stamp. Second it listed my grandfather & his parents, but only my grandmother (without her parents — fortunately, the other two records listed those parents). Third and most puzzling is the marriage bann dates:
13th, 20th, 27th January [of 1907 implied]. But wait a minute, the date of the alegata is 11/24 January, 1907. That is three days before their marriage date. So this “official document” had listed a future date [of the marriage], I guess giving them permission to marry in the church assuming the 3rd bann was a foregone conclusion. The future date so messed with my mind and comprehension of Russian/Cyrillic that I had to check and recheck the three documents to assure myself I was reading it correctly and that they had used a future date in the alegata!
Oh, the 11/24 January 1907 thing? That is just the custom of “dual dating”. The earlier date is the Julian date: 11-January-1907, as the Russian calendar was still using the Julian calendar. While the 24-January-1907 is the Gregorian calendar that we use today. Of course you can find liturgical calendars (Russian Orthodox for example) that still use the Julian Calendar for their religious events (i.e. EASTER). Why is it 13 days difference? They were in the 20th century and another day difference between the two calendars, as compared to the majority of the church records (1868-1900 during when the Russian language was the defacto language of administration records) in the Russian partition which were 12 days apart.
— — — Alegata …
As a genealogist, and many of Stanczyk’s readers are genealogists, we are of course leaving a legacy in our research. As a Polish-American, I also leave cultural legacies related to Thanksgiving or 4th of July or Easter or Christmas.
But I wanted share yet another personal legacy that I am sharing. You see those colorful books at the top of the blog? They are a series of ten books by COLLIER — The Junior Classics. It was a series of hardback books filled with stories & poems across a spectrum of genres from 1938!
My parents bought me this set as a child. I was not a good bibliophile as a child and our books became gradually marred. I kept one book (orange) of poems. The picture is of a set I was able to locate via the Internet and purchase to share with the children from Teréza & my marriage. I wanted to share my love of reading with our children as my mother & father had done for me. So a legacy of reading, learning, and exploring and also a love for bound books … as anachronistic as that may be today or in the future. Thank God that someone else had preserved such a cultural treasure from the past — these books are 75 years old! I hope my and Tereza’s kids can maintain this legacy and the act of reading stories & funny onomapoeiatic poems to their children too.
That is a legacy that connects our generations.
P.S. – kids, my favorite volumes were #1 & #3 and because of my father and his readings, also #10 .
In Stanczyk’s first genealogical examination on Ayn Rand’s genealogy:
Ayn Rand – A Genealogical Examination — 15th-August-2012
I omitted publishing her citizenship papers, which I am now including in this article.
“Alice” applied for citizenship on 29th June 1929. She declared herself to be a Hebrew (i.e. that she was Jewish), not Russian. She also said she emigrated from Mexico (clearly a lie) and that her last residence was Petrograd, Russia. Her occupation was ‘clerk’.
I say clearly a lie, since her Ship Manifest that records her REAL arrival on, 19-Feb-1926 as Alice Rosenbaum arriving in New York City, NY on board the SS De Grasse. I just wanted to emphasize that she was a liar on numerous occasions when it suited her purposes. So I guess I can conclude that Objectivism includes a tenant of lying — tough to base a philosophy/economic theory on lies. That is not intellectualism, that is an academic fraud.
On March 13, 1931 she was granted citizenship. You can see her citizenship is 5 years after her REAL arrival. So what was June 29th, 1929 if not an arrival date? It was a return from her honeymoon vacation! Do you see how she twists things to suit her purposes?
In the original article I did mention that she collected Social Security & Medicare to pay for her lung cancer surgery & medical bills. I forgot to mention that she had applied for Social Security before 1951 (probably in the 1930’s like our ancestors) when she lived in CA. You can get her SS5 application if you are so inclined. I chose not to spend the $35 for that document but you can go to Ancestry.com and order the SS5 there easily enough.
— — — — — — — — — — Two more images of Alice O’Connor (Ayn Rand) :
Gesher Galicia has really been adding content and also a website redesign of late. I am planning on joining this genealogical society. The reason is their projects and current databases, maps, and variety of resources that can aid all genealogists and especially Jewish Genealogists with family from the former Galicia region (now western part in Poland, eastern part in Ukraine) of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire (aka Hapsburg). So Ukrainian and Polish genealogists take note!
This little tidbit was found because of a PGSCT&NE posting in Twitter/Facebook. So keeping tabs on events in social media (or reading this blog) can keep you informed on the latest contributions by genealogists, the world over. Follow these societies and join them and volunteer your time. I am sure Gesher Galicia members knew about this and active meeting goers may have been informed, but it is now the Internet/Cloud that keeps the vast majority of genealogists informed and involved. Keep up the good work!
The Gesher Galicia website has an article by Alexander Dunai. Alexander also has another, more complete article on his website which you should go read ( http://alexdunai.com/documents/item_11/) on Tabula Registers and their purpose, plus a list of towns is available with this genealogy resource at URL:
The list of towns from that article with Tabula Registers for the Villages and Towns of Galicia:
|Bandrow||Bania Kotowska||Belz (15 vols)|
|Bialy Kamien||Blyszczywody (incl. in Mokrotyn)||Bolechow|
|Bolehowce||Brody (32 vols, 1794-1884)||Bronica|
|Brzegi Dolne||Brzezany (12 vols)||Buda (incl. in Wysoka)|
|Busk (5 vols)||Cholojow||Chorocowa|
|Dobrohostow||Dobromyl (16 vols)||Dobrzanica (incl. in Uszkowice)|
|Dolhopol||Dolina (10 vols)||Dolina area villages (incl. in Lopianka)|
|Drohobycz & suburbs (81 vols)||Dunajow vicinity villages||
|Folwarki Wielke & Folwarki Male||Gaje Starobrodskie||Gerynia (incl. in Witwica)|
|Gleboka||Gliniany (8 volumes)||Grodek Jagiellonski (11 volumes 1797-1880)|
|Halicz (10 vols. 1753-1886)||Holowy||Hoszow|
|Hoszow (incl. in Stankowce)||Hrusatycze (incl. in Strzeliska)||Hubice|
|Huczko||Jagielnica||Jaroslaw (50 vols. 1792-1892)|
|Jaworow (9 vols. 1792-1893)||Jozefow||Kalusz (7 vols. 1758-1822)|
|Kamionka Strumilowa (21 books)||Katyna||Kimirz|
|Kniahinin (4 vols. 1801-1885)||Kniazpol||Kobasz|
|Kolomyja (30 volumes)||Kolpiec||Komarno|
|Krasnoila||Krechow||Kropiwnik Nowy & Stary|
|Krystynopol (7 vols. 1792-1883)||Kulczyce||Kulikow|
|Kurowice||Kuty (18 vols, 1781-1888)||Kwaszenina|
|Makow||Mariampol (3 vols, 1807-1855)||Migowo|
|Mokrotyn, Smerekow, Przedrzymichy, & Blyszczywody||Muzylowice||Nadziejow (incl. in Lopianka)|
|Neudorf (incl. in Bolechowce)||Niedwedza||Nojdorf (incl. in Zawidowice)|
|Nowe Miasto (1 volume)||Obersdorf||Olesko (3 vols, 1798-1882)|
|Prochnik (14 vols, 1814-1874)||Przerzymichy (incl. in Mokrotyn)||Przemysl with suburbs (56 vols, 1799-1894)|
|Przemyslany (11 vols, 1816-1881)||Radziechow (2 vols, 1827-1874)||Raniowice|
|Rawa Ruska (12 vols, 1796-1882)||Rodatycze||Rogozno|
|Rozenburg||Rozen Maly and Rozen Wielki||Roztoki|
|Roztoczki (incl. in Witwica)||Rudawka||Rudki (4 vols)|
|Rybno with Slobodka||Rybotycze||Rymanow with neighboring villages (6 vols, 1782-1888)|
|Sambor & neighboring villages (69 volumes)||Sielec||Smereczna|
|Smerekov (incl. Mokrotyn)||Slobodka||Smolnica|
|Smolno||Sniatyn (vols, 1791-1832)||Sokal (vols. with index)|
|Stanila with Stebnik and Kolpets||Stanislawow & suburbs (99 vols. 1784-1882)||Stankowce with Hoszow|
|Stare Miasto||Stary Sambor||Starzawa Sanocka|
|Stebne with Dolhopol||Stebnik||Strzeliska Nowe and Stare|
|Sulukow (incl. Lopianka)||Szmankowce||Tarnawa|
|Tartakow (1 vol. 1817-1883)||Tarnopol city (50 vols.).||Trebowla (12 vols. 1803-1886)|
|Truskawiec (incl. Tustanowice)||Tudiow||Tustanowice (1802-1889)|
|Untervalden (incl. in Uszkowice)||Ustrzyki Dolne (1855-1880)||Uszkowice|
|Witwica incl. Roztoczki & Gerynia||Wojnilow (3 vols, 1652-1839)||Wolica|
|Wysocko||Wysoka & Buda||Wyzniany & vicinity|
|Zablotow (3 vols)||Zaleszczyki (4 vols)||Zawidowice & Nojdorf|
|Zbadyn||Zbaraz (8 vols)||Zloczow (50 vols)|
|Zolkiew (24 vols)||Zoltantce||Zurawno (2 vols)|
|Zydaczow (8 vols)|
Thank you, Alexander Dunai, for this fine piece of research. I will be visiting your website and taking a further look at your other efforts too. Very nice website!
The minions in the Email-Room dropped off a missive at my virtual cubicle today. Today’s question is about Polish Royalty & DNA as it relates to genealogy …
Hi, I stumbled across your blog and thought you might could help me. We are searching for my father’s ancestry and think he is a Poniatowski. My grandfather Andrzej changed his name when he came to America in 1909. The story we always heard was that he was royal. So I have my father’s yDNA markers but cannot find a surname project online for the Poniatowskis or other Polish nobles. Do you know of any? Maybe you can give me some advice? I sure would appreciate it! Thanks in advance for sharing anything.Sincerely,Kristian Krawford— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Welcome to the blog. DNA plays a role in genealogy in some ways, but it is NOT for every genealogist. It is due the certainty factor (I favor >97% certainty) takes you back beyond the number of generations that most people tracing Slavic/Polish genealogy can do UNLESS they have royal blood. Your question gives me yet another reason to endorse limited use of DNA in genealogy. I am in favor of using DNA in your case because, you want to determine if you have royal blood or not and specifically whether or not you are related to Poniatowski szlactha (nobility).
Now to the crux of your question. You have your family DNA and want to compare it. Ancestry.com has some capacity, but perhaps because they have so little Polish emphasis in their data, their DNA may be lacking from Polish genealogists families. So…
You can Google:
Y-DNA project of Polish Nobility families
That led me to:
This web page had a very extensive list of family names with their DNA markers. I hope you can find your markers in these that are available. Notice that is “Y-DNA”. The mt-DNA will not work for you as that is the maternal/mitochondrial DNA that is passed from Mother to all children (relatively unchanged, except by mutation) and the Y-DNA is the paternal DNA passed from father to sons (23rd chromosome). The rest of the DNA is called autosomal / atDNA (see Genealogical DNA test). This link is a good link for introduction of DNA terms to the genealogist.
The Getty Museum released on 14th-August-2013 over 4,000 images into public domain (i.e. free). According to the ArtObserved article on the museum’s public release made public on their Getty Iris blog, this is part of their, “Open Content” commitment of their digital resources.
You can search these images using: Getty Search Gateway .
Stanczyk, knows what you’re thinking, “I am too busy on my genealogy to search through museum images”. But I politely urge you to reconsider. While I was searching their images, I found a genealogical family tree, of Duke Ludwig I of Brzeg (amongst many other images he commissioned). A Polish noble of house Piast. So if your family tree intersects, get thee to the Getty Museum. For those curious, I have posted the images to this blog. The text is Fraktur looking, gothic, German script.
Stanczyk has been a bit busy this past week with Oracle 12c (database) ! So forgive me if I play a bit of catch-up on my genealogy.
I have analyzed the data from GENEALODZY.PL in their GENESZUKACZ database for Pacanów Births (1875-1908). So now I need some help (pomoc). In my notes column I have noted the ELIASZ that I have in my family -or- my guess. The empty notes fields are ELIASZ that I need help with. If you are a genealogist with these people in your family tree then please email me your info and if possible any images of church records or family photos.
|1||1875||110||Wacław||Eliasz||in my tree; son of Wojciech Eliasz & Agnieszka Pyszkow; [image]|
|2||1876||109||Marianna||Eliasz||daughter of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|4||1879||20||Roman||Eliasz||son of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|5||1880||52||Jan||Eliasz||son of Jozef Eliasz & Petronella Zwolski|
|6||1880||160||Jan||Eliasz||My grand-uncle Jan; son of Jozef Eliasz & Marianna Paluch|
|7||1881||28||Jan||Eliasz||Martin Eliasz’s (& Julianna Odomski) son|
|9||1881||130||Tomasz||Eliasz||son of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|10||1882||128||Wincenty||Eliasz||son of Jozef Eliasz & Petronella Zwolski|
|11||1882||157||Marianna||Eliasz||Martin’s (Julianna Odomski) daughter|
|16||1885||46||Józef||Eliasz||My Grandfather; Have Birth Record|
|23||1889||109||Antoni||Eliasz||??possibly son of Ludwik & Elzbieta M.|
|26||1890||181||Stanisław||Eliasz||Martin’s son, dies in Detroit (Stanislaw Elyasz in October 1923)|
|34||1893||261||Agnieszka||Eliasz||??? Agnieszka Marianna E. that marries S. Hajek (Cleveland) ???|
|36||1895||230||Tomasz||Eliasz||My Grand-Uncle (Dorota’s grandfather); Have birth record|
|42||1899||79||Zygmunt||Eliasz||??? Zygmunt Elijasz son Jozef E. & Theresa Siwiec??? PROBABLY not since Zygmunt was born in Biechow in 1898 (April 19)|
|49||1903||95||Stanisława||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|50||1903||112||Helena||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|51||1903||175||Janina||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|55||1906||141||Edward,Jan||Eliasz||son of Jan Eliasz & Pelagia z Kedzierski ?|