Richard III finally is buried 22-MARCH-2015 in a marked grave.
Update your family trees Anglo Genealogists.
… A Muse — ing
Dr. Manuel Rosa long time historian, some-time IT professional is returning to the USA again on:
Feb 10th, 2015 at the: Florida International University (in Miami, FL) to present, “COLUMBUS: The Untold Story“. This was brought to my attention by, “Lourenço Damas” on 16th December. Lourenco has been a previous commenter/contributor to this blog.
I have posted a few times on Manuel Rosa and his research that Christopher Columbus may have been the son of King Wladyslaw III, going by the name, “Henry the German (Alemao)” to hide from Turks who thought they killed him. When is the book going to be published in English?
To review the factual claims … read this blog article. Some arguments are compelling, others are an exegetical stretch. I thought we were waiting on DNA to confirm/refute this theory? Where is that DNA test, Dr. Rosa? This is beginning to feel like “Ancient Astronaut” TV fodder since it does not progress to accepted fact by continued research and/or intellectual debate amongst historians in historical journals.
10 – December – 2014 —
The House Grimaldi was founded in 1160 AD with Grimaldo Canelli. Such a long lived and august dynasty deserves much attention and so …
Stanczyk would like to announce the latest royals to be born …
PARIS (AP) – Each newborn got 21 cannon shots, the bells tolled for 15 minutes and the air filled with the sound of boat horns when Monaco’s royal twins were born. And everyone in the tiny principality gets a day off to celebrate.
“I wish to share this moment of happiness with the Monegasque people and more widely with all my country’s residents,” new father Prince Albert II said Thursday.
Princess Charlene gave birth Wednesday to little Gabriella and Jacques, the 28th generation in the dynasty. Long live the Grimaldi Line!
#WordlessWednesday — The above is a historical calendar for Polish Events in October. So I thought it was perfect for kicking off Polish American Heritage Month.
Also, Stanczyk wanted to mention that this month also has an important museum opening in New York City, NY.
MUSEUM OF THE HISTORY OF POLISH JEWS announce its Grand Opening on OCTOBER 28, 2014
The museum will open with eight galleries and span the 1,000 history of Jewish Life in Poland. The press-release provides further details. For more info CONTACT: email@example.com . In time for Polish American Heritage Month!
King Richard III was dead, you must admit for over 100 years or this story will make no sense. So more than a century had expired before the bard ever gave him the tragedy treatment. King Richard III ‘s reputation was such a cesspool of swirling accusations and counter claims that by Shakespeare’s time he is portrayed as “a physically deformed machiavellian villain, albeit courageous and witty …”. Now it is indeed true that king died in battle (final and decisive battle of the War of Roses) and was hastily buried and his remains were lost for just over a half-millenia.
Richard III was lost and spent the the first 500+ years of his eternal life, ignominiously buried beneath a parking lot in Leicester. They (the Brits) finally located where his bones were and the bones were unearthed in 2012 . Even though they had to ascertain whose bones were unearthed in that parking lot, this re-commenced a less violent and less heroic struggle for Richard III ‘s bones. After half a millenia in the ground we developed the ability look at DNA and via mtDNA and compared to those of a direct descendant of Richard’s sister. So now we have the remains of King Richard III for certain and as I foreshadowed the forces of several armies immediately sought to lay claim to the bones. This mayhem precipitated a judicial review. The magistrates have ruled and now a proper party, er, um, ahem, burial will be had and Richard III will be interred Saturday, March 28, 2015 at the Leicester Cathedral. There the king will lie in repose for three days prior to beginning the next part of his eternal life. King Richard III’s remains will lie in repose for three days, during which time the public can pay their respects. The first service, on March 26, will be followed by similar events on March 27 and 28 leaving plenty of time for people to plan their vacations to be a part of this august ceremony and be able to purchase all of the bric-a-brac that is incumbent at major genealogical events !
Now we come to the heart of the matter for this jester. I inveigle all of my Anglo-Genealogists and Royalists of all stripes to properly update their family trees to show the accurate burial date and place of poor Richard III. The king’s remains will now be deposited inside a lead ossuary placed inside an English-oak coffin — all of which will be placed inside a brick-lined vault in the cathedral floor of Leicester Cathedral. Let the Wikipedia editors take note too!
So let it be written.
P.S. — As the picture shows, Shakespeare was at least correct in the physical deformity part of his portrayal.
Yesterday King Juan Carlos abdicated his throne. Yesterday, Spain’s World Cup team was given a Chile-reception (Nil-2) and sent packing for home. But, today is a new day for Spain Felipe VI begins his reign. It is a new era for Spain’s royalty .
What has gotten me off my royal jester duff ? The baptism of bonny Prince George of Cambridge, of course. I was keeping abreast of this genealogical event. But the interest in this baby is phenomenal ! Blog readership is up over 250% and most of that increase is International.
I’ll come back to the God Parents (all seven of them) in a minute.
First, I want to comment on the four generation photo of HRH Queen Elizabeth and her three generations of heir apparents – Prince Charles, Prince Andrew and Prince George. Why the focus on a family photo? This is extraordinary in British History – only once before has a four generation picture happened and that was 1894 !
The parallel is obvious – baptism is a time of whole family gathering and when it’s a future monarch, it is historic.
Prince George who was born 22 July 2013, had his christening and (23 October 2013, Chapel Royal) was attended and sponsored by no less than seven God Parents – And neither Prince Harry nor Pippa Middleton were god parents.
God Fathers — William van Custem, Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, Hugh Grosvenor, Oliver Baker
God Mothers — Zara Tindall, Julia Samuel, Emilia Jardine-Paterson
#GoodGenealogy = #GoodHistory
British Royal Family Tree — 27 July 2013
Stanczyk just loves the artistry and historicity of heraldic symbols. But, it was a bonus! At the site was a 1764 map of the Poland/Lithuanian Commonwealth.
As a double bonus, I looked at the whole website:
http://www.wawrzak.org/news_updates.htm and it is a site dedicated to Szlachta (Polish Nobility). It has Polish/English text. Very nice find for those with blue blood coursing through their genealogical veins.
The 1764 Map is shown on the Maps Page.
Father: HRH Prince William Arthur Philip Louis
Mother: Catherine Elizabeth Middleton, HRH Duchess of Cambridge
Usual Address: Kensington Palace London
Filed 2nd August 2013 by William [signature]
Love the occupations !
Mom was born in Reading, Dad was born in Paddington, Westminster
British Royal Family Tree – 27th-July-2013
The minions in the Email-Room dropped off a missive at my virtual cubicle today. Today’s question is about Polish Royalty & DNA as it relates to genealogy …
Hi, I stumbled across your blog and thought you might could help me. We are searching for my father’s ancestry and think he is a Poniatowski. My grandfather Andrzej changed his name when he came to America in 1909. The story we always heard was that he was royal. So I have my father’s yDNA markers but cannot find a surname project online for the Poniatowskis or other Polish nobles. Do you know of any? Maybe you can give me some advice? I sure would appreciate it! Thanks in advance for sharing anything.Sincerely,Kristian Krawford— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Welcome to the blog. DNA plays a role in genealogy in some ways, but it is NOT for every genealogist. It is due the certainty factor (I favor >97% certainty) takes you back beyond the number of generations that most people tracing Slavic/Polish genealogy can do UNLESS they have royal blood. Your question gives me yet another reason to endorse limited use of DNA in genealogy. I am in favor of using DNA in your case because, you want to determine if you have royal blood or not and specifically whether or not you are related to Poniatowski szlactha (nobility).
Now to the crux of your question. You have your family DNA and want to compare it. Ancestry.com has some capacity, but perhaps because they have so little Polish emphasis in their data, their DNA may be lacking from Polish genealogists families. So…
You can Google:
Y-DNA project of Polish Nobility families
That led me to:
This web page had a very extensive list of family names with their DNA markers. I hope you can find your markers in these that are available. Notice that is “Y-DNA”. The mt-DNA will not work for you as that is the maternal/mitochondrial DNA that is passed from Mother to all children (relatively unchanged, except by mutation) and the Y-DNA is the paternal DNA passed from father to sons (23rd chromosome). The rest of the DNA is called autosomal / atDNA (see Genealogical DNA test). This link is a good link for introduction of DNA terms to the genealogist.
The Getty Museum released on 14th-August-2013 over 4,000 images into public domain (i.e. free). According to the ArtObserved article on the museum’s public release made public on their Getty Iris blog, this is part of their, “Open Content” commitment of their digital resources.
You can search these images using: Getty Search Gateway .
Stanczyk, knows what you’re thinking, “I am too busy on my genealogy to search through museum images”. But I politely urge you to reconsider. While I was searching their images, I found a genealogical family tree, of Duke Ludwig I of Brzeg (amongst many other images he commissioned). A Polish noble of house Piast. So if your family tree intersects, get thee to the Getty Museum. For those curious, I have posted the images to this blog. The text is Fraktur looking, gothic, German script.
Stanczyk muses on the notion, does the British Royal Family need a court jester ? Perhaps, Harry would not want a competitor. Did you notice that the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge had a baby by any chance ? The Internet and CATV seems to have invested some bandwidth to this little story.
Here is the family tree from King George VI, through his daughter, HRH Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles (of Wales), Prince William (of Cambridge) and the latest addition, Prince George Alexander Louis.
Did you know that the “royals” get to pick their last name ? If you look closely at the tree you will see a variety of last names. We still do not know the new prince’s last name. His father Prince William’s name is at present, William Wales. So the new prince could be George Cambridge (or Windsor or Tudor or Mountbatten or Wales etc.). We are still waiting on the Duke & Duchess for the full name. By the way, I notice only three given names. I believe there may yet be a fourth given name as well as the surname. I also do not think he can be Prince … of Cambridge, since that is his father. Is it not true that each prince must have their own principality?
By the way, the baby prince might not be King George VII. The young prince’s great-great grandfather became George VI at coronation. King George VI ‘s birth name was: Albert Frederick Arthur George. So George was his fourth given name. Might the baby be King Louis ? That name seems to be a bit too French for the Britains to accept.
Royal Genealogy – so many traditional formalities. Just Fascinating.
Do any of you, my regal readers, have any Polish Royal Blood in your family tree? Any Szlachta out there?
Email me this poor jester (without a court) !
is a big fan of Jan III Sobieski. Today’s meme, a continuing meme in this blog came about because Valerie Warunek had posted about Digital Library of Polish and Poland Related News Pamplets. That mention of a new library launched me on another research adventure. When I was looking up other things in Leszno, for Hyam Salomon, I found a Latin text related to Jan Sobieski. This jester loves Jan Sobieski’s letters, particularly those to his beloved wife. This document recounted his victory of 1673 of the Battle of Chocim and was a missive to the pope. This would be a pattern for King Jan III ‘s future battles — letters before and after battle. After the battle, a missive was sent to the pope. King Jan III was a good Catholic monarch.
He claimed the Triumphant Crown in the Name of Poland and the Polish Eagle.
My Latin is not sufficient to render the phrase to the left (I see Polish Eagle = Aquila Polona). But it was signed the Dragon.
Hmmm. Interesting. I know the Transylvanians aided Jan III Sobieski. But I am supposing this is a reference to the Order of the Dragon, a monarchic chivalric order meant to defend Europe’s Christians (from the Ottoman Empire). This battle is a good 100 years after Vlad Tepes (“The Impaler”) aka known as Dracula, son of the Dragon (Vlad II). Vlad II was a member of the Order of the Dragon, but his son Vlad Tepes was not a member of the order. So my thesis is that Jan III Sobieski was a member of the monarchic Order or the Dragon. Note that Wladyslaw II (Jagiellonian dynasty — possible Columbus grandfather) was also a member. So perhaps there was a strong connection of this chivalric order to the kings of Poland.
So here are a list of (source: Wikipedia) …
Stanczyk has written a few times on this Columbus / Wladyslaw III genealogy-genetics-history riddle. The Don Quixote of this tale is Manuel Rosa (an an information technology analyst and amateur historian). Mr. Rosa’s claims of the Polish (or more properly Lithuanian, as in Jagiellonian) Wladyslaw III lineage date back to November 2010.
1. 02-December-2010 – Christopher Columbus Discovers … He Is POLISH!
2. 27-December-2010 – Wladislaw III – Father of Columbus
Plus a few mentions: 2011, & 2012 at the start of Polish Heritage Month (each October).
Well here is the latest update, from “the Lithuania Tribune“. You can read the lengthy article which is most informative.
The author laments (“… it is lamentable that, up until now, there is little or no debate in America or Lithuania to either accept or contradict”) that only Portuguese and Polish academics have currently debated this topic. Well then Rosa needs to have published/translated the book in Lithuanian and English if he wishes for further debate.
Are there any historians out there? Can anyone refute or supply proof of the above factual claims? Columbus letters and their language should be easy to establish. What about these other people named: General[Roman] Colonius, Portuguese nobles related to Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, or Prince Georges Paleologue de Bissipat ? Come on European Historians help out this poor jester with some factual links or books/documents — so much is online these days.
The next Manuel Rosa appearance is: April 6, 2013, where Manuel Rosa will present a lecture at Boalsburg’s Columbus Chapel, (http://www.boalmuseum.com/columbus-lecture.html) where more evidence will be presented, in Boalsburg, PA which is North-West of Harrisburg (contact: contact 814-466-9266 or firstname.lastname@example.org).
I’d love to have this story proven true or false. It is time for the sensationalism to end. Did National Geo ever televise this story as reported earlier? This jester never saw it. What happened with the Colon DNA being compared to Wladyslaw III descendants? So far we only have that he is not related to Colombos who are Genoese. But since he had Roman heritage, I presume he has some Italian DNA. What about the Slavic DNA? Those pesky Slavic DNA markers are pretty different from Italian DNA markers. I am hoping we have Y-Chromosome DNA testing which should show Slavic markers and MT DNA testing which should show Italian/Portuguese markers.
I accept that Cristobal Colon must have had royal blood to marry a noble woman and have such access to European courts. I also accept that a noble man would have had the education that a peasant wool-worker could never have had. I am uncertain about the heraldic symbols. The rest I am unqualified to judge — hence the plea for help.
Stanczyk, in one of my continuing memes, offers my latest account of ADD researching. What is ADD researching? It is a case of Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), whereby I become distracted by curiosity into something more interesting than what I am actually looking up. Today’s ADD Researching brings me to Heraldic Genealogy. Something in Stanczyk’s DNA can be distracted by colorful, Germanic graphic images — hence “The Bohemian Nobility” cover image was what distracted me in my latest adventure. Let me hasten to add, that as yet, I have not located any Bohemian branches of Eliasz (although I believe there are some).
Many genealogists become fascinated by the notion of tracing their family back to a Royal Lineage. Stanczyk too has a family folklore, shared by distant branches (2nd, 3rd cousins) all telling the same tale that we are related to royalty, but nobody seems to recall the Royal from whom we are all related ???
In Stanczyk’s case, the connecting and convergent point seems to point to the Leszczynski line, though try as I may, that Royal Line seems to end with women and thus the Leszczynski line should not continue down to us via the Leszczynski name, but that is what all of our families that share the family folklore, share as a family name. Alas, I fear that I shall have to content myself with having jestered for three kings.
I found the “The Bohemian Nobility” in one of Poland’s Online Digital Libraries. The link is via the SBC here. This digital book is 464 “pages”. It starts with an index of family names. I scanned the list of names and did not find any from my family tree. Heavy Sigh! So I then looked for a connection to me in some fashion to keep my curiosity piqued. I found one: Hoffman in the index.
So my example and an homage to the great Polish Genealogist, Linguist, and All-Around-Amusing-Curmudgeon, Fred Hoffman, author of many books/treatises on language and genealogy. I found a Hoffman — perhaps this is where Fred’s line comes from (but Stanczyk does not know Fred that well). So the book follows the index with pages of descriptions about the families and then pages (aka “Tafels”/Tables) of Heraldic Symbols (sheilds). So each family name is in three places: index, description, heraldic symbol.
You can click for a larger, more readable version of the Hoffman description and I cannot do it justice as it is written in German and Stanczyk lacks his grandmother’s acumen for German (and Russian and Polish, although my Latin and English are better).
Notice it has a reference to ‘Taf 9′ in parentheses after the family name. The Heraldic Symbols start on page(uh image) 313. So by adding nine (and subtracting one) we get to page 321 where ‘Taf 9′ is found. This algorithm should work for all names.
The name, Hoffman, is found above the heraldic symbol for that family. I found the heraldic symbol interesting and ornate (as most usually are). The Hoffman family crest seems to include an anchor (and a castle) — I seem to recall that Bohemia is landlocked, so the anchor is interesting indeed. There must be a story behind that heraldic symbol (shown below):
- Almanach Szlechecki (4 vols: A-Belijosz)
- LESZCZYNSCY Herbu Wienawa
- Account of Poles Elevated to the Rank of Nobility by the Austrian
- Spis nazwisk szlachty polskiej (List of Names of Polish Nobility)
You may not recall, but the Polish Digital Libraries require a DjVu plug-in for your browser (or a DjVu applet, written in Java) to view the above digitized books — indeed all digitized content in Polish Online Libraries and Archives use this software. DjVu software is here . Do yourself a favor and download this software(I have used on MS Windows and on MACs).