Anna Sławińska (Bukowa, Wiązownica parish, Kielce Gubernia, Poland)
Piotr Glica (Trzcianka, Niekrasów parish, Kielce Gubernia, Poland)
… A Muse — ing
Anna Sławińska (Bukowa, Wiązownica parish, Kielce Gubernia, Poland)
Piotr Glica (Trzcianka, Niekrasów parish, Kielce Gubernia, Poland)
Stanczyk got another genealogical question. It was from Cris (on Ancestry.com).
Cris wrote …
Cris, welcome to my blog. I have good news so please keep reading. As you no doubt know, I have SLAWINSKI in my own family tree. Most likely you will find your name in Polish Archive / Church records written as SŁAWIŃSKI in Polish and as СЛАВИНСКИЙЬ in Russian records.
Since your ancestral village is near to Sandomierz, I knew it would be in Kielce AP (state archive of Poland) and in particular its office in Sandomierz AP. This Kielce / Sandomierz area is where the overwhelming majority of my Polish ancestors come from. As a result, I knew to check Metryki.GenBaza.pl to see if your grandmother Anna Slawinska might have her records online. The good news is yes, those records are online in GenBaza. It has Sulislawice (which is also the parish) in the years: 1810-1910 [inclusive].
You will need to be able to read Polish for records 1810-1868 (possibly Latin before 1820). For records in the years 1869-1910, they will be written in Russian/Cyrillic characters.
You will also need to register for userid / password on Metryki.GenBaza.pl (which takes you to GenPol.pl) and do so in Polish to gain access to that database of church record images. This is doable, but not a trivial task. Once you get an email with your userid/password, contact me again and I will post the link to my blog where I wrote a user guide to using the website.
But it is the holiday season and your Slawinski may be relatives of my Slawinski. So this jester is willing to find your grandmother’s birth record (if she was in fact born in Sulislawice). To do so, please contact me in Ancestry again with:
I will use that info to search for and send you the birth record if I find it. I will also provide a translation of the key genealogical facts (dates, names, ages, etc.) from what I am expecting will be a Russian language record.
Happy Holidays !
Dobrowoda, “Good Water” indeed. Its about 15-16 km from my paternal grandmother (babcia/Busia), Waleria’s ancestral village (Biechow). Waleria Leszczynska’s (half-)sister, Agnieszka married her 2nd husband, Wladyslaw Fras … somewhere (I am still looking for that marriage). Agnieszka & Waleria (the Leszczynscy) were born in Biechow so you might expect their marriage was there in the bride’s village as is custom. But let me start this genealogical story from the beginning.
A few years ago, my family tree on the Internet caused someone to email me about my Leszczynski. For years, other genealogists had emailed about LESZCZYNSKI, so I was used to saying, “Its a popular name and we are not related or are so distantly related that we cannot prove it.” But this person had a name, Agnieszka Leszczynski, which I had one too in my tree, but she was born so long ago (1866) that I only had a birth record and nothing more for Agnieszka Leszczynski. But she had a Russian Passport (which she could not read). I had never seen an actual Russian Passport before, so I told her I would look at it and help translate what info I could and perhaps that will tell us whether there is a chance that her ancestor (great-grandfather), Jozef Fras, was son of my Agnieszka Leszczynski or not. Long Story-Short, the passport gave clues to the same area, tantalizingly close to Biechow — so I could neither prove nor disprove the relationship, but it was an avenue for research. So I started researching her Fras/Frass from Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio. They were close to where my grandparents and my grand-aunt, Antonina Leszczynska Sobieszczanski lived. Ok that added a very tenuous connection. I found a church baptism where Jozef Fras’s wife, BENIGNA (not a common name) was a God Mother to one of my dad’s Sobieszczanski cousins. Ok. that is a pretty good connection. Next I found Jozef’s ship manifest and that his father was Wladyslaw Fras living in Piersciec, a village in the same parish as my grandmother’s family. Ok that is a great connection. Oh, look Jozef went from his father, Wladyslaw, to his uncle Teofil Leszczynski (my grand-uncle) in Depew, Erie County, NY. Ok that is a solid family indicator. So I emailed Mindy to tell her that we were probably related and I added Fras to my family tree.
So Mindy sent me family photos of other Fras family from Poland. So I knew Jozef had two brothers and a sister (maybe) and I had their names. From the passport I had a birthdate / birthplace for Jozef (Zborow – which I initially mistook for Zborowek, but later realized he meant the Zborow near Solec, at any rate both were in Kielce gubernia. So I had Biechow and Solec as possible parishes to research. Eventually GenBaza published images online and I could progress, I did find Jozef’s siblings: Teofil & Wincenty(and two sisters born in Piestrzec/Piersciec). But I could not find Jozef and I also could not locate Wladyslaw and Agnieszka’s marriage record in Biechow or Solec (nor in Stopnica). I began to research in nearby parishes (cluster genealogy) looking for either the birth or the marriage record. Years went by and no luck.
Did I mention that GenBaza went offline due to technical problems? It did and when it came back I noticed a few new parishes, hence Dobrowoda (which was >= 15km away) and I doubted that a parish at such a distance might yield any new clues. However, earlier I had found a church record in Stopnica of a Fras birth, where a Wladyslaw Fras was God Father. I then found the marriage and alegata for the couple whom Wladyslaw was God Father for. It turned out that Fras was originally from Silesia [Uiejsce, in Wojkowice Koscielne parish, in Piotrkowskiej Gubernia, Poland]. I found this Fras’ birth record and now had his parents (possibly Wladyslaw’s parents or maybe just uncle/aunt). Using Geneteka as an index, I found other children for Jan Fras & Maryanna Bialas, besides this Stopnica Fras. This family went from Wojkowice Koscielne parish in Piotrkowskiej Gubernia to Holudza village in Chotel Czerwony parish, in Kielce Gubernia. OK now we are getting close. I found Jan Fras’ death record in Kikow village in Dobrowoda parish (also Kielce Gubernia). So when Dobrowoda came online, I decided I would look there once GenBaza came back online.
That is where this blog entry starts. There were many years and I was not expecting any Fras really. So I started in Zborowek instead which now had metrical records and not just alegata like before. Some minor advances, but nothing really. So I looked at Dobrowoda. There were many years in Dobrowoda and my eyes went right to a book that ended in ‘rejestr’. These ‘rejestr’ tend to be church censuses, sometimes just an annual census, sometimes a decade, sometimes two-three generations. So I thought I could quickly scan and see if there were any Fras or not in this parish.
It was just an annual census (my hopes were lowered) for 1895 sorted alphabetically with Birth Marriage and Death records indexed together (in a funky Polish handwriting – that I had to train my eyes to read). Ok there was a Fras, a Teofil Fras. But I had already found my Teofil Fras born in 1903, so this Teofil Fras born in 1895 must be for another family. Nonetheless, I wanted the record to see if Wladyslaw or Agnieszka Fras were a God Parent or witness. So I was shocked to find that this Teofil Fras was also a child of Wladyslaw Fras and Agnieszka Leszczynska. This Teofil must have died and thus the second Teofil was born in 1903 (who is the one in my picture with Wincenty). Ok this parish had my Fras. Maybe I can find the birth of Jozef and/or the marriage of Wladyslaw & Agnieszka here. From the passport, I knew that Jozef was born in 1893, so I went to that year. Guess what I found? Yes, I finally found Jozef Fras’ birth record and the date matched as well as the parents.
Alas, I still did not find the marriage record of Wladyslaw and Agnieszka, but now I have hope. I hope I can find their marriage and also Wladyslaw’s birth (once I confirm that his parents are indeed Jan Fras & Maryanna Bialas). You must persevere. These affiliated families (like Fras) can indicate parishes to research in for your main lines and shorten your cluster genealogy search. But as you saw, Dobrowoda was indeed good water for Stanczyk.
Jozef Fras birth record:
Early today (22-September-2015) — The latest version of Ancestry’s app version 6.7 was released. Now 90.5MB in size.
The download is specific to handling images. The quality and ease of dealing with images in your smartphone was greatly improved!
I wanted emphasize the Entry # a bit more. Yesterday and today we were discussing Subject, Policy, & Correspondence Files. These are NOT the A-Files or C-Files that the INS/USCIS provides genealogy research for. These correspondence files were turned over to NARA & are in the National Archives.
Entry#9 — INS Policy Corespondence
Entry#26 — Bureau of Naturalization Correspondence
Entry#P-4A — Central Office Files
The Subject Card Indexes in Ancestry.com are Entry#9.
These are all RG85, Entry#9. The final piece of info (File#) comes from the subject index card. In Leon Pieszczochowicz ‘s case it was: 55,874-84
So that is how I got my three pieces. Most people will be Entry#9 (deportation, illiterate, disease, crimes, etc. — immigration related) with some people possibly falling into Entry#26 if their correspondence is about the Naturalization (naturalization issues).
It was an excellent webinar. It was my first genealogy webinar! The AT&T Connect that the NARA used for the webinar worked extremely well. I used the iPhone app (as opposed to the laptop software). The iPhone app work well. I heard the presenter over the phone and was able to see the slides simultaneously on the phone. Very nice choice by the NARA/USCIS and executed well by Zach Wilske.
This jester had a goal to figure out how to research a fact from a number located on Ancestry for Leon Pieszczochowicz. I found Leon in Ancestry’s: Subject Index to Correspondence and Case Files of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1903-1952
I had found a number(s)/code : 55,874-84
Mr Wilske did a thorough job explaining the topic and out popped my answer without my even having to text a question to the presenter. I needed to go to NARA in Washington D.C.
I also learned that you need three pieces of info: RG (Record Group), Entry#, & File# . So what did I have and how do I research it?
Ah, I have a File#. What do I do with it?
As per Mr. Wilske, I sent an email to: email@example.com
to confirm the file is still extant.
Dateline 24-August-2015 — Two days ago this announcement / presswire was published: here . It said that more than 80 newspapers would be digitized and brought online. Now, I am thinking this will not be in Ancestry.com, but in their other product: Newspapers.com (thus requiring you to subscribe to two offerings).
Already this collaboration has born fruit in that Cinncinati Enquirer has 4 million pages available online. Now this jester went to Gannett’s website and saw that they have 95 U.S. newspapers (not including USA Today) covering about 2/3 of the U.S. states. Michigan, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Indiana, California, Texas, Wisconsin have at least one newspaper each. Each archive will ultimately include every available page from the first date of publication up to about 30 days prior (to the present? or the announcement?).
This jester is waiting for the Detroit Free Press (MI) and Times Recorder Zanesville (OH) where I expect to find some ancestors in the news. They do not have a Buffalo or Philadelphia paper nor are there any newspapers in Illinois, but they cover a large swath of areas where my ancestors settled.
Stanczyk was reminded this week by Flipboard genealogy blogger Kenneth R Marks (Boost Your Genealogy Research With Newspapers) — If you have not discovered this valuable resource then by all means click the link and scan his recent articles in his curated Flipboard magazine.
This week Mr. Marks’ article reminded this jester about TROVE, an Australian Historical Newspaper (and other online documents too) website. Now I say reminded, because loyal readers may recall my article from April 2013 (From Pacanow Poland to Birchgrove …).
I like what they have done since 2013 and it appears they have been busy at TROVE. So i encourage you to take another look for your Polish ancestor. TIP (see picture): Use advanced search, look for online resources, search the newspapers for: Naturalization Notice, Poland and check the categories: Advertising, Family Notices to see vital record notices as well as immigration/naturalization notices. This should get your a little over 8,000 articles to search through.
Here are two images of Polish expats who immigrated to Australia post World War II:
GenBaza is fine. However, there is no way to see anything other than Lodz. The reason is because GenPol.com has had a bad crash. GenPol is used as the login/authentication method for GenBaza so we cannot reach the other databases until GenPol is fixed (a couple of weeks at least).
Check back and I will update this post when GenBaza is back.
17-August-2015 – A few days ago, Stanczyk noticed that GenPol.com had updated their 503 Page (Server Outage). This lets users know that the server is down and that recovery is in progress (both English/Polish). This was important so people do not think they are just gone.
Thanks to a reader / contributor (Judy G.) I am pleased to mention two new Section Maps for Mount Olivet Cemetery in Detroit (Wayne County), MI.
Judy was kind of enough to send Sections P & R. These are nice quality scans too and you can click-enlarge to read the names of the individual cemetery plot names.
Version 6.6.1 of Ancestry.com ‘s App changes the UX (User Experience) in two noticeable ways:
Edit Person, View Tree (previous function of the initial tap of prior app versions), Add Relative.
Nicholas Winton, MBE — born 19 May 1909, died 1 July 2015 . Obituary: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11711344/Sir-Nicholas-Winton-humanitarian-obituary.html [please read]
Stanczyk took note of the passing of Sir Nicholas Winton. Sir Nicholas saved 669 children, [Complete List] from Czechoslovakia most of whom were Jewish from Nazi death camps. There are now over 6,000 living people as a result Winton’s heroism. Follow the above link to see the names / pictures of who Winton saved.
Winton died 1st-July-2015 at the age of 106. He was often called the British Schindler for his work. He might have been forgotten but his wife, Grete. She remembered a photo album of names & pictures of the children Sir Nicholas saved during the war.
His website: nicholaswinton.com lists the children and so much more from his noble life.
— — — — — — Diacriticals to Use (in search box): ą Ć ć ę Ł ł ń ó Ś ś Ź ź Ż ż
— — — — — — just copy/paste the above text characters as necessary in your search
Stanczyk, was talking about the interactive 16th century map of Polish Crown-Lands the last blog article.
We were talking specifically about a zoomed in search of Pacanów:
Now the last article mentioned:
In this article I want to talk about a few more user interface / user experience (UX) elements:
Here is the image (clickable) I will be addressing:
The place name search box has been hidden so we can see more of the map under the search box.
For the toolbar we find the following icons (top to bottom):
Show/Hide Panel (to show hide the layers/legend tabs), max zoom-out, previous map, next map, zoom at selection, zoom-in, zoom-out, pan, info on selected map object, select rectangluar region to zoom in on, tool tip, measure (distance, area), query editor, refresh map. Now I want to emphasize a few of the toolbar tools. Just hover over a toolbar icon to see the name of each tool. Click on an icon to select the desired tool (before interacting with the map).
The Show/Hide Panel tool at the top is to show or to hide the right-most area known as the Layers/Legend Panel (that contains the two tabs, “Layers” & “Legends”. This is again a way to show more of the map. I also like the Measure tool. The measure tool allows you to draw either a line or a polygon shape. Drawing a line will give you the distance between two points. Drawing a polygon will give you total area and the length around the polygon edges. To draw a line click on measure tool (3rd from bottom) and drag your mouse to the second location and double-click (to end line drawing). So if you select the measure tool you will see an info box in lower right corner of your screen that gives the distance/area. So if you click on Pacanów and double-click on Biechów, the distance shown should be approximately 7 km (roughly 4.2 miles) between my grandfather’s village and my grandmother’s village. You can clear the distance info in the bottom corner and redraw your line(s) as necessary. The Pan tool (shown as a hand) is necessary to drag the map up or down or right or left to pan the map. You need to click on the pan tool before trying to move the map (or you will be doing whatever the last selected tool was). The last tool I wanted to mention is the, Tool Tip tool. The tool tip is a very nice tool that provides info on a village as you hover over its square/dot).
The Panel is the right-most part of the map and you can toggle on or off the showing of the panel via the top tool in the toolbar. There are five layers for this 16th century map available (from the underlying data). The panel has two tabs, “Layers” and “Legend”.
Each layer has a box with a ‘+’ in it that you click on to expand (the box then contains a ‘-‘ which you click on to close). For this article we are only interested in “Ecclesiastical Borders”. This layer allows us to show the checkboxes for the boundaries for a parish or a deaconate (aka deanery) or a diocese. The two that can be most helpful for studying your ancestors are the parish boundary and/or the deaconate boundary. In the above map, I checked both parish and deaconate boundaries. Now keep in mind that these church boundaries are the way they were back in the 16th century and not for the current times and in most cases also do not match the 18th/19th centuries either. These borders can point out the relationship between nearby parishes and also show which set of villages make up a parish. Both of these visual clues are helpful to the genealogical researcher.
The checkboxes when checked show the boundary and when unchecked do not display the boundaries.
The Materials Menu is near the upper right corner (above the map area) and it allows you to switch between collections whose data are map based. It shows the same map but the layers change to show the new details that can be displayed through the user interface.
I particularly found the “Libraries of Wislica”, “Protestant Communites 16th-18th centuries”, and “Religions / Confessions 18th century” to be VERY interesting !
Now using the Layers tab and the Info tool can be most useful. The objects on these maps open up rows of data via the info tool to show a lot of useful material that you must see to believe. This is one of the best uses of a spatial (i.e. map) user interface that I have yet seen. It may take some time to master the user interface, but I assure it is worth it if you want to go much deeper in your understanding of your family history in Poland. If you are looking for old synagogues or to find minority religious denominations that are uncommon this site is a treasure trove of help.
Stanczyk, was combing through genealodzy.pl (aka PTG). In their discussions they mentioned a new website with an interactive map of Poland from the 16th century. That was excellent and I will discuss it this blog article and continue in the next with examples. But I decided to see what else the website had and that is how this jester go to:
If you see the polish language version, merely click on the British flag to see English language. This site has seven assets worth perusing and examining in depth, including the interactive map of the Polish Kingdom in the 16th century (16w).
This blog is primarily about Kielce wojewodztwo (or gubernia) and some surrounding areas too. So while I dutifully inform my readers who are interested in other Polish Genealogical matters or Geographical area that there are Tax Registers for KALISZ or POZNAN. There are also a statistical record of ALL religions in the Polish Kingdom of the 18th century (very useful for classifying your ancestral parish’s congregation or identifying a synagogue location). Likewise, the register of PROTESTANT congregations in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for 16th-18th centuries (16w-18w). This jester did not investigate the court records … yet. Lastly, the parish libraries of Wislica is heavy Latin lifting, so while I did peruse and find some possible future gems, I will skip this too. So I will return to the 1st item in the list, the interactive map which is a treasure for all wojewodztwa (provinces/states/voivodes).
Here is the link (using English, clicking above link will lead to an intermediate set of choices which uses Polish map):
You should see:
Let’s type ‘Pacanów’ (no quotes, and diacriticals are needed). Since it is inconvenient to enter diacriticals, you can start typing and let the software, autocomplete for you (thus supplying the necessary diacritical). Keep in mind that this what Poland looked like in the 16th century! So that is why you see Wislica ‘District’ and the Sandomierz wojewodztwo in the pop-up box — which you should promptly close . Next we need to zoom as, all you can see is the blue-green box that represents Pacanów (not the actual text). So in the lower left of your screen is the zoom tool. Click on plus 2-3 times or drag the little slider arrow or you can do as I did and enter ‘100000’ (no quotes) into Scale field at the bottom.
You should see:
Now you notice villages with green boxes (ex. Solec, Swiniary, Biechow, etc.). These are parishes that existed in the 16th century.
— — — — — — Diacritcals to Use:
ą Ćć ę Łł ń ó Śś Źź Żż
Next time we will examine the map further.
Olivier, first thanks for reading/writing the blog …
I’ve been reading your genealogy blog for a year now and I’ve found some nice infomration from and a lot of good humour as well, thank you and good job.I trying to research my in-law’s side of the family. They come from Lomza and Grajewo region of Poland, I believe it is the Podlaskie District. The names are Bruszkiewicz and Jurkowski, and Trepanowski (a cousin).
I registered with GenBaza.pl and genetyka.pl and metryki but it doesn’t look as easy as how you made it look in your blog stories to find available scans. And then when I go to the Polish State Archives, well the short of it is I don’t read Russian (and I don’t read Polish either but I can read indexes, I can’t in Russian) and I don’t know how to spell Bruszkiewicz in Russian. So when I am faced with an index or i’m looking at a page of 4 birth certificates, i don’t even know what I’m looking at.
Then I will need to find help with translations.
Do you have any tips on how to translate a Polish family name into how it would be spelled in Russian? And written by hand in a civil register?
As anyone indexed these parishes?
Any encouragements or tips would be welcomed if possible The whole thing feels like a brick wall!
Thank you for any help, and good job on the blog!
Ok let me see in what ways I can help you:
So if we try, “Bruszkiewicz”, we get (try the first one, but keep in mind that you are liable to see any below):
Брушзкивич, Брюшзкивич, Бружзкивич, Брюжзкивич, Брушжкивич, Брюшжкивич, Бружжкивич, Брюжжкивич, Брушзкиевич, Брюшзкиевич, Бружзкиевич, Брюжзкиевич, Брушжкиевич, Брюшжкиевич, Бружжкиевич, Брюжжкиевич
Today the Queen met her newest great-grandchild, HRH Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana of Cambridge . The Duke of Cambridge signed the official birth certificate today.
From earlier accounts we know that the royal baby was born at 8:34am (local time) on the 2nd of May.
The newest version of the Ancestry App 📱 (6.5) is here. Genealogy on the go has reached a new level of portability for those with an Apple Watch⌚️ !
Lets see if the optimized matching is like MyHeritage or exactly what “enhanced search results” entails (more to come).
Option to delete trees within the app seems risky with touch screens. Caution would be advised and practice on a test tree before doing this for real.
🇵🇱 — I hope your using iOS 8.3, otherwise you may be seeing aliens (instead of iPhone, Apple Watch, Polish Flag)