What has gotten me off my royal jester duff ? The baptism of bonny Prince George of Cambridge, of course. I was keeping abreast of this genealogical event. But the interest in this baby is phenomenal ! Blog readership is up over 250% and most of that increase is International.
I’ll come back to the God Parents (all seven of them) in a minute.
First, I want to comment on the four generation photo of HRH Queen Elizabeth and her three generations of heir apparents – Prince Charles, Prince Andrew and Prince George. Why the focus on a family photo? This is extraordinary in British History – only once before has a four generation picture happened and that was 1894 !
The parallel is obvious – baptism is a time of whole family gathering and when it’s a future monarch, it is historic.
Prince George who was born 22 July 2013, had his christening and (23 October 2013, Chapel Royal) was attended and sponsored by no less than seven God Parents – And neither Prince Harry nor Pippa Middleton were god parents.
God Fathers — William van Custem, Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, Hugh Grosvenor, Oliver Baker
God Mothers — Zara Tindall, Julia Samuel, Emilia Jardine-Paterson
#GoodGenealogy = #GoodHistory
Prior Story …
British Royal Family Tree — 27 July 2013
Stanczyk just loves the artistry and historicity of heraldic symbols. But, it was a bonus! At the site was a 1764 map of the Poland/Lithuanian Commonwealth.
As a double bonus, I looked at the whole website:
http://www.wawrzak.org/news_updates.htm and it is a site dedicated to Szlachta (Polish Nobility). It has Polish/English text. Very nice find for those with blue blood coursing through their genealogical veins.
The 1764 Map is shown on the Maps Page.
100 years ago today my paternal grandmother Walerya Leszczynska Eliasz came to the USA with my four year old aunt Aleksandra (Alice) in tow on the SS Prinz Adalbert. She arrived in Philadelphia (for some unknown reason) and went to Buffalo to join my grandfather, Jozef and her two brothers and a sister. She arrived on the SS Prinz Adalbert from Hamburg, Germany (port) and her last residence was Pacanow.
So it is safe to say that Stanczyk would not be here today if Walerya had not come to the USA when she did.
SEE other related posts …
The Ship manifest was also very helpful with its markings that indicated citizenship papers and also showing she came from her father (Tomasz in Pacanow) to her husband (Jozefin Depew, NY).
The Depew, NY address was actually her brother Teofil’s address. According to my aunt Bernice, my Busia’s brothers had to go get my grandfather (whom I assume was working in Detroit). My grandparents were reunited in Depew and I have their century old photo in an antique oval/bubble frame with “1913″ inscribed on the back. It must have been a happy reunion, because my aunt Kitty was born in 1914 in Depew.
Ancestry.com has updated their app to version 5.0 (iTunes App Store). I like their newest effort. It looks nice and the User Experience (UX) is improved for the most part. I miss having a button for showing just the lineal line (not siblings) to save space on the iPhone. Also the UX does not provide ways to go up or down your family tree other than what is displayed on screen (5 generations on iPhone). Why no arrows on top/bottom rows. You can of course click on someone higher up in the tree and see further back generations from that person, but you may not realize that there are prior generations unless you know your tree well. No visual key that more generations exist.
When you upgrade you will need to download your whole tree again (does that imply their local db changed and needs to be reloaded?) and that takes about 30–45 seconds for a tree of 1,142 people. Small price to pay. I do wonder if the new app is causing problems for the Ancestry.com web site. It has performed slowly and sometimes the app says Ancestry.com is not available. Perhaps mobile app users are putting a bigger strain then online users.
It integrates more closely with Facebook. That did not appeal to me, but for some people it may be just what you want. As a result I do not know what happens when you connect your Facebook profile to a person in the tree (does it post the timeline to your Facebook timeline?).
Besides, Facebook, the app now integrates with Ancestry.com more completely. The app now works a lot like the web site. It does not appear to be missing any features. I like the new Timeline view of a profile … very nice.
The Gallery button on the bottom of the profile view quickly loads your images (much faster). It also automatically searches for hints too. Finally this view has a new feature to find sources (from Ancestry.com?) for your facts. Very nice.
The tight integration to the web site does mean the app switches control to a Safari web-app but the integration is so tight you might not notice the switch to Safari and back to the App
In Stanczyk’s first genealogical examination on Ayn Rand’s genealogy:
Ayn Rand – A Genealogical Examination — 15th-August-2012
I omitted publishing her citizenship papers, which I am now including in this article.
“Alice” applied for citizenship on 29th June 1929. She declared herself to be a Hebrew (i.e. that she was Jewish), not Russian. She also said she emigrated from Mexico (clearly a lie) and that her last residence was Petrograd, Russia. Her occupation was ‘clerk’.
I say clearly a lie, since her Ship Manifest that records her REAL arrival on, 19-Feb-1926 as Alice Rosenbaum arriving in New York City, NY on board the SS De Grasse. I just wanted to emphasize that she was a liar on numerous occasions when it suited her purposes. So I guess I can conclude that Objectivism includes a tenant of lying – tough to base a philosophy/economic theory on lies. That is not intellectualism, that is an academic fraud.
On March 13, 1931 she was granted citizenship. You can see her citizenship is 5 years after her REAL arrival. So what was June 29th, 1929 if not an arrival date? It was a return from her honeymoon vacation! Do you see how she twists things to suit her purposes?
In the original article I did mention that she collected Social Security & Medicare to pay for her lung cancer surgery & medical bills. I forgot to mention that she had applied for Social Security before 1951 (probably in the 1930′s like our ancestors) when she lived in CA. You can get her SS5 application if you are so inclined. I chose not to spend the $35 for that document but you can go to Ancestry.com and order the SS5 there easily enough.
— — — — — — — — — — Two more images of Alice O’Connor (Ayn Rand) :
Poland, Radom Roman Catholic Church Books, 1587-1966; http://bit.ly/X9qxJ8
Poland, Lublin Roman Catholic Church Books, 1784-1964 was also updated: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1867931
Also Czech Republic Censuses 1843-1921: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1930345
Add Family Search Wiki Page if your genealogy research area is Poland:
Images and indexes of church books containing baptisms and births, marriages, burials and deaths for the parishes in the Radom & Lublin Roman Catholic Dioceses of Poland.
Births end in 1912,
Marriages endin 1937, and
Deaths end in 1982 due to Polish privacy rules.
Father: HRH Prince William Arthur Philip Louis
Mother: Catherine Elizabeth Middleton, HRH Duchess of Cambridge
Usual Address: Kensington Palace London
Filed 2nd August 2013 by William [signature]
Love the occupations !
Mom was born in Reading, Dad was born in Paddington, Westminster
See Also …
British Royal Family Tree - 27th-July-2013
Gesher Galicia has really been adding content and also a website redesign of late. I am planning on joining this genealogical society. The reason is their projects and current databases, maps, and variety of resources that can aid all genealogists and especially Jewish Genealogists with family from the former Galicia region (now western part in Poland, eastern part in Ukraine) of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire (aka Hapsburg). So Ukrainian and Polish genealogists take note!
This little tidbit was found because of a PGSCT&NE posting in Twitter/Facebook. So keeping tabs on events in social media (or reading this blog) can keep you informed on the latest contributions by genealogists, the world over. Follow these societies and join them and volunteer your time. I am sure Gesher Galicia members knew about this and active meeting goers may have been informed, but it is now the Internet/Cloud that keeps the vast majority of genealogists informed and involved. Keep up the good work!
The Gesher Galicia website has an article by Alexander Dunai. Alexander also has another, more complete article on his website which you should go read ( http://alexdunai.com/documents/item_11/) on Tabula Registers and their purpose, plus a list of towns is available with this genealogy resource at URL:
The list of towns from that article with Tabula Registers for the Villages and Towns of Galicia:
|Bandrow||Bania Kotowska||Belz (15 vols)|
|Bialy Kamien||Blyszczywody (incl. in Mokrotyn)||Bolechow|
|Bolehowce||Brody (32 vols, 1794-1884)||Bronica|
|Brzegi Dolne||Brzezany (12 vols)||Buda (incl. in Wysoka)|
|Busk (5 vols)||Cholojow||Chorocowa|
|Dobrohostow||Dobromyl (16 vols)||Dobrzanica (incl. in Uszkowice)|
|Dolhopol||Dolina (10 vols)||Dolina area villages (incl. in Lopianka)|
|Drohobycz & suburbs (81 vols)||Dunajow vicinity villages||
|Folwarki Wielke & Folwarki Male||Gaje Starobrodskie||Gerynia (incl. in Witwica)|
|Gleboka||Gliniany (8 volumes)||Grodek Jagiellonski (11 volumes 1797-1880)|
|Halicz (10 vols. 1753-1886)||Holowy||Hoszow|
|Hoszow (incl. in Stankowce)||Hrusatycze (incl. in Strzeliska)||Hubice|
|Huczko||Jagielnica||Jaroslaw (50 vols. 1792-1892)|
|Jaworow (9 vols. 1792-1893)||Jozefow||Kalusz (7 vols. 1758-1822)|
|Kamionka Strumilowa (21 books)||Katyna||Kimirz|
|Kniahinin (4 vols. 1801-1885)||Kniazpol||Kobasz|
|Kolomyja (30 volumes)||Kolpiec||Komarno|
|Krasnoila||Krechow||Kropiwnik Nowy & Stary|
|Krystynopol (7 vols. 1792-1883)||Kulczyce||Kulikow|
|Kurowice||Kuty (18 vols, 1781-1888)||Kwaszenina|
|Makow||Mariampol (3 vols, 1807-1855)||Migowo|
|Mokrotyn, Smerekow, Przedrzymichy, & Blyszczywody||Muzylowice||Nadziejow (incl. in Lopianka)|
|Neudorf (incl. in Bolechowce)||Niedwedza||Nojdorf (incl. in Zawidowice)|
|Nowe Miasto (1 volume)||Obersdorf||Olesko (3 vols, 1798-1882)|
|Prochnik (14 vols, 1814-1874)||Przerzymichy (incl. in Mokrotyn)||Przemysl with suburbs (56 vols, 1799-1894)|
|Przemyslany (11 vols, 1816-1881)||Radziechow (2 vols, 1827-1874)||Raniowice|
|Rawa Ruska (12 vols, 1796-1882)||Rodatycze||Rogozno|
|Rozenburg||Rozen Maly and Rozen Wielki||Roztoki|
|Roztoczki (incl. in Witwica)||Rudawka||Rudki (4 vols)|
|Rybno with Slobodka||Rybotycze||Rymanow with neighboring villages (6 vols, 1782-1888)|
|Sambor & neighboring villages (69 volumes)||Sielec||Smereczna|
|Smerekov (incl. Mokrotyn)||Slobodka||Smolnica|
|Smolno||Sniatyn (vols, 1791-1832)||Sokal (vols. with index)|
|Stanila with Stebnik and Kolpets||Stanislawow & suburbs (99 vols. 1784-1882)||Stankowce with Hoszow|
|Stare Miasto||Stary Sambor||Starzawa Sanocka|
|Stebne with Dolhopol||Stebnik||Strzeliska Nowe and Stare|
|Sulukow (incl. Lopianka)||Szmankowce||Tarnawa|
|Tartakow (1 vol. 1817-1883)||Tarnopol city (50 vols.).||Trebowla (12 vols. 1803-1886)|
|Truskawiec (incl. Tustanowice)||Tudiow||Tustanowice (1802-1889)|
|Untervalden (incl. in Uszkowice)||Ustrzyki Dolne (1855-1880)||Uszkowice|
|Witwica incl. Roztoczki & Gerynia||Wojnilow (3 vols, 1652-1839)||Wolica|
|Wysocko||Wysoka & Buda||Wyzniany & vicinity|
|Zablotow (3 vols)||Zaleszczyki (4 vols)||Zawidowice & Nojdorf|
|Zbadyn||Zbaraz (8 vols)||Zloczow (50 vols)|
|Zolkiew (24 vols)||Zoltantce||Zurawno (2 vols)|
|Zydaczow (8 vols)|
Thank you, Alexander Dunai, for this fine piece of research. I will be visiting your website and taking a further look at your other efforts too. Very nice website!
The minions in the Email-Room dropped off a missive at my virtual cubicle today. Today’s question is about Polish Royalty & DNA as it relates to genealogy …
Hi, I stumbled across your blog and thought you might could help me. We are searching for my father’s ancestry and think he is a Poniatowski. My grandfather Andrzej changed his name when he came to America in 1909. The story we always heard was that he was royal. So I have my father’s yDNA markers but cannot find a surname project online for the Poniatowskis or other Polish nobles. Do you know of any? Maybe you can give me some advice? I sure would appreciate it! Thanks in advance for sharing anything.Sincerely,Kristian Krawford— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Welcome to the blog. DNA plays a role in genealogy in some ways, but it is NOT for every genealogist. It is due the certainty factor (I favor >97% certainty) takes you back beyond the number of generations that most people tracing Slavic/Polish genealogy can do UNLESS they have royal blood. Your question gives me yet another reason to endorse limited use of DNA in genealogy. I am in favor of using DNA in your case because, you want to determine if you have royal blood or not and specifically whether or not you are related to Poniatowski szlactha (nobility).
Now to the crux of your question. You have your family DNA and want to compare it. Ancestry.com has some capacity, but perhaps because they have so little Polish emphasis in their data, their DNA may be lacking from Polish genealogists families. So…
You can Google:
Y-DNA project of Polish Nobility families
That led me to:
This web page had a very extensive list of family names with their DNA markers. I hope you can find your markers in these that are available. Notice that is “Y-DNA”. The mt-DNA will not work for you as that is the maternal/mitochondrial DNA that is passed from Mother to all children (relatively unchanged, except by mutation) and the Y-DNA is the paternal DNA passed from father to sons (23rd chromosome). The rest of the DNA is called autosomal / atDNA (see Genealogical DNA test). This link is a good link for introduction of DNA terms to the genealogist.
It is now 1 month away from PBS’s Genealogy Roadshow. The series initial program airs Monday, September 23rd at 9:00pm EDT (1am GMT). The show is based upon the Irish TV version of the same name that PBS optioned and is produced by Krasnow Productions in the US.
Every Monday, 9/23 (Detroit, MI), 9/30 (Austin, TX), 10/7 (Nashville, TN), 10/14 (San Francisco, CA) PBS will air the one hour shows that will embody, “part detective story, part emotional journey, combining history and science to uncover fascinating stories of diverse Americans.” The PBS show uses science and history to tell/verify genealogical stories with the most compelling finds shown on air in historic local settings. The four cities were chosen for their diversity of the American genealogical experience. The producers are breaking new ground, with a format that features an expert team of genealogists investigating ordinary people’s stories and then presenting them to a live roadshow audience in an historical setting.
Stanczyk will be waiting … anxiously.
The Getty Museum released on 14th-August-2013 over 4,000 images into public domain (i.e. free). According to the ArtObserved article on the museum’s public release made public on their Getty Iris blog, this is part of their, “Open Content” commitment of their digital resources.
You can search these images using: Getty Search Gateway .
Stanczyk, knows what you’re thinking, “I am too busy on my genealogy to search through museum images”. But I politely urge you to reconsider. While I was searching their images, I found a genealogical family tree, of Duke Ludwig I of Brzeg (amongst many other images he commissioned). A Polish noble of house Piast. So if your family tree intersects, get thee to the Getty Museum. For those curious, I have posted the images to this blog. The text is Fraktur looking, gothic, German script.
Other Duke Ludwik I, Family Tree Images …
Stanczyk has been a bit busy this past week with Oracle 12c (database) ! So forgive me if I play a bit of catch-up on my genealogy.
I have analyzed the data from GENEALODZY.PL in their GENESZUKACZ database for Pacanów Births (1875-1908). So now I need some help (pomoc). In my notes column I have noted the ELIASZ that I have in my family -or- my guess. The empty notes fields are ELIASZ that I need help with. If you are a genealogist with these people in your family tree then please email me your info and if possible any images of church records or family photos.
|1||1875||110||Wacław||Eliasz||in my tree; son of Wojciech Eliasz & Agnieszka Pyszkow; [image]|
|2||1876||109||Marianna||Eliasz||daughter of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|4||1879||20||Roman||Eliasz||son of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|5||1880||52||Jan||Eliasz||son of Jozef Eliasz & Petronella Zwolski|
|6||1880||160||Jan||Eliasz||My grand-uncle Jan; son of Jozef Eliasz & Marianna Paluch|
|7||1881||28||Jan||Eliasz||Martin Eliasz’s (& Julianna Odomski) son|
|9||1881||130||Tomasz||Eliasz||son of Ludwik & Elz. Miklaszewski|
|10||1882||128||Wincenty||Eliasz||son of Jozef Eliasz & Petronella Zwolski|
|11||1882||157||Marianna||Eliasz||Martin’s (Julianna Odomski) daughter|
|16||1885||46||Józef||Eliasz||My Grandfather; Have Birth Record|
|23||1889||109||Antoni||Eliasz||??possibly son of Ludwik & Elzbieta M.|
|26||1890||181||Stanisław||Eliasz||Martin’s son, dies in Detroit (Stanislaw Elyasz in October 1923)|
|34||1893||261||Agnieszka||Eliasz||??? Agnieszka Marianna E. that marries S. Hajek (Cleveland) ???|
|36||1895||230||Tomasz||Eliasz||My Grand-Uncle (Dorota’s grandfather); Have birth record|
|42||1899||79||Zygmunt||Eliasz||??? Zygmunt Elijasz son Jozef E. & Theresa Siwiec??? PROBABLY not since Zygmunt was born in Biechow in 1898 (April 19)|
|49||1903||95||Stanisława||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|50||1903||112||Helena||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|51||1903||175||Janina||Eliasz||one of these three is Emilja daughter of Jan/Pelagia|
|55||1906||141||Edward,Jan||Eliasz||son of Jan Eliasz & Pelagia z Kedzierski ?|
Dateline 22 Jul 2013 — FamilySearch.Org New Database
FamilySearch.Org has some new databases (don’t they always — they are amazing). One in particular caught this jester’s eyes.
United States, National Register of Scientific and Technical Personnel Files, 1954-1970,
By training and long years in the field, Stanczyk is a STEM worker. So I was drawn to this database. But who did I know had a degree and was a professional in 1954-1970 ? How about one of my favorite authors … in a register of Science / Technical professional? Well, yes — if you thought of Isaac Asimov .
So what data is in this database …
If click on the FamilySearch.org link, then query on Isaac Asimov, you will see:
Stanczyk muses on the notion, does the British Royal Family need a court jester ? Perhaps, Harry would not want a competitor. Did you notice that the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge had a baby by any chance ? The Internet and CATV seems to have invested some bandwidth to this little story.
Here is the family tree from King George VI, through his daughter, HRH Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles (of Wales), Prince William (of Cambridge) and the latest addition, Prince George Alexander Louis.
Did you know that the “royals” get to pick their last name ? If you look closely at the tree you will see a variety of last names. We still do not know the new prince’s last name. His father Prince William’s name is at present, William Wales. So the new prince could be George Cambridge (or Windsor or Tudor or Mountbatten or Wales etc.). We are still waiting on the Duke & Duchess for the full name. By the way, I notice only three given names. I believe there may yet be a fourth given name as well as the surname. I also do not think he can be Prince … of Cambridge, since that is his father. Is it not true that each prince must have their own principality?
By the way, the baby prince might not be King George VII. The young prince’s great-great grandfather became George VI at coronation. King George VI ‘s birth name was: Albert Frederick Arthur George. So George was his fourth given name. Might the baby be King Louis ? That name seems to be a bit too French for the Britains to accept.
Royal Genealogy – so many traditional formalities. Just Fascinating.
Do any of you, my regal readers, have any Polish Royal Blood in your family tree? Any Szlachta out there?
Email me this poor jester (without a court) !
Stanczyk has been a bit busy since the 4th of July! So forgive me if I play a bit of catch-up on my blog.
A bit of bigos (recipe) !!
Let me point out that in June the Polish Archive completed their latest update on: ♥ http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/ .
Unfortunately, it did not include anything from the old wojewodztwo: Kielce (now in SwietoKrzyskie). See the image of the drop down menu below (not full listing but to give you an idea on what is in and how that is somewhat limited for researchers like Stanczyk. I hope another phase will commence soon!
♥ genealodzy.pl - They added the death records from 1875-1908 for Pacanow parish to their Geneszukach database. Previously they had added the Birth and Marriage records. These are transcription / indexes, not actual church record images such as you find in their Metryki database.
Still I have found dozens of Eliasz (and … Gawlik, Gronek, Hajek, Kedzierski, Leszczynski, Major, Paluch, Wlecial, Zasucha, etc.) that I was previously unaware of. Now I will need to get the actual images in order to make sense of these indexes and the new people in order to add them to the family tree.
Enjoy the bigos. Smaczne (delicious)!
Stanczyk is a bit uncertain. It seems like every day there are some new vital records indexes or even actual register scans themselves made available from congregations all over the Central European — Jewish, Catholic (Roman & Greek), Orthodox, Lutheran/Evangelical lands that make up Poland or a land that was once within the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (the 1st Republic) or any of the variations between those times. So I thought I would step back and take stock of what was available. Yes, I know this will be out of date by tomorrow. But here is a quick & dirty, handy reference list of where to go looking. Clip & Save.
Poland – Archives & Genealogical Societies
AGAD Księgi metrykalne – Eastern Borderlands (Ukraine, Russia Jewish Pale, etc.) —
(scans by Sygn.: http://www.agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/KMLw301.html#idp1765776 )
Prussian Poland Parishes
BASIA - http://www.basia.famula.pl/en/ - State Archives in Poznan, the Wielkopolska Genealogical Society (WTG “Gniazdo”) project.
Poznan Marriage Project - http://poznan-project.psnc.pl/
Pomorskie Towarzstwo Genealogiczne - http://www.ptg.gda.pl/
All Poland & Eastern Borders (PTG)
METRYKI (parish register scans)– http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/
Szukajwarchiwach (Poland’s National Archives online) - http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/
This is the latest project and is shooting to have 5.8 Million records by the end June (this month) scanned and on-line by Polish Archive or National Museum.
Jewish Record Indexing (JRI) – http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jriplweb.htm
The venerable project with new life provides indexes to registered users (free) and then you can purchase the actual church record. Great for Jewish Pale & Russian Poland, plus so much more.
Metryk.GenBaza.pl - http://metryki.genbaza.pl/genbaza,list,4,1 (AP GRODZISK). Archive in Grodzisk Mazowiecki (Russian Poland parishes near Warsaw).
Besides the 5 parishes below, you might want to have a look at holdings for:
Austria, Germany, Russia & Ukraine
|Poland, Częstochowa Roman Catholic Church Books, 1873-1948||Browse Images||14 Feb 2013|
|Poland, Gliwice Roman Catholic Church Books, 1599-1976||Browse Images||14 Feb 2013|
|Poland, Lublin Roman Catholic Church Books, 1784-1964||99,510||14 Feb 2013|
|Poland, Radom Roman Catholic Church Books, 1587-1966||18,916||21 Apr 2013|
|Poland, Tarnow Roman Catholic Diocese Church Books, 1612-1900||1,002,155||6 Jan 2012|
Did I miss any? Email Me … Proszę !
http://regestry.lubgens.eu/news.php - from Valerie Warunek (PGSM). Database of Indexed church records (birth/urodzenia, marriage/malzenstwa, death/zgony) from Lubelskie wojewodztwo. No scans (skans), but it does have record (akt) #’s.